paskal
02-14 02:48 PM
chandu...have u read the lawsuit outcome? do u still think that an administrative fix is easier to achieve than a lawsuit? lets say it comes down to either/or...either a lawsuit or an administrative fix...which one would IV support?
but actually an administrative fix is a very real possibility. the administration is currently willing and friendly to this kind of action. we need to draw their attention to the urgency of the matter and the need to act quickly. a lawsuit, if it were to happen is many years away. anyway USCIS cannot recapture any GC on it's own, so it will have to wait for a final verdict and order to do anything..assuming success.
therefore i would strongly suggest promoting the admin fixes campaign at this time, we do not want to lose this opportunity. this is not an either/or situation. writing letters does not take away from any other ideas etc.
a failure would not bode well in general when it is because of lack of participation. i want to hasten to add that letters have reached in the thousands now- but we need more, many more. please keep up the efforts, and thanks to the many that are working on this now...!
also as i said earlier- someone needs to stand up publicly and be a leader. and one leader is not enough. needs a team. that team must be willing to disclose identity etc publicly, if they are to collect money. in any case a lawsuit is very public and anonymity is not an option. these are the very basis of starting such a project. no one has yet responded to this affirmatively. a lot of yes votes do not mean anything. someone(s) needs to be willing to stick their necks out with time, money, effort and a very public profile.
just my 2c.
but actually an administrative fix is a very real possibility. the administration is currently willing and friendly to this kind of action. we need to draw their attention to the urgency of the matter and the need to act quickly. a lawsuit, if it were to happen is many years away. anyway USCIS cannot recapture any GC on it's own, so it will have to wait for a final verdict and order to do anything..assuming success.
therefore i would strongly suggest promoting the admin fixes campaign at this time, we do not want to lose this opportunity. this is not an either/or situation. writing letters does not take away from any other ideas etc.
a failure would not bode well in general when it is because of lack of participation. i want to hasten to add that letters have reached in the thousands now- but we need more, many more. please keep up the efforts, and thanks to the many that are working on this now...!
also as i said earlier- someone needs to stand up publicly and be a leader. and one leader is not enough. needs a team. that team must be willing to disclose identity etc publicly, if they are to collect money. in any case a lawsuit is very public and anonymity is not an option. these are the very basis of starting such a project. no one has yet responded to this affirmatively. a lot of yes votes do not mean anything. someone(s) needs to be willing to stick their necks out with time, money, effort and a very public profile.
just my 2c.
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zCool
05-11 10:13 AM
Takes 4 years to get Aussie citizenship now..
Citizenship is not a toll-pass.. you are taking an oath to be loyal to 1 country.. you are giving up another.. I think GC backlog is messing up with folks' heads.. the cavelier attitude abt things like citizenship etc.. :)
Citizenship is not a toll-pass.. you are taking an oath to be loyal to 1 country.. you are giving up another.. I think GC backlog is messing up with folks' heads.. the cavelier attitude abt things like citizenship etc.. :)
LostInGCProcess
08-18 09:43 PM
I usually just browse through these forums and I really appreciate the effort put in by the organizers. But this thread gave me an urge to respond and perhaps talk.
Don't ever be that Indian guy in the office. Be a smart global citizen.
Wow!!! Nice post. I like the last line you mentioned. :)
Don't ever be that Indian guy in the office. Be a smart global citizen.
Wow!!! Nice post. I like the last line you mentioned. :)
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vrichards
09-05 12:44 AM
It seems like YSR was a very evil man. We must celebrate now that he has died.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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bajrangbali
05-01 02:16 PM
Guys..as many of you have heard..Sri Lankan government has led an offensive against LTTE over the past few weeks and both sides have accused each other of killing civilians. And all countries have called for restraint on both sides and stop killing civilians.
UN confidential report which came to light shows the SL government bombing the safe-zone they allocated for civilians since the offensive began. For the first time, besides each side accusing each other of the civilian killings there is some proof regarding who has done what.
It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.
We may be busy with our own issues here..economy, immigration, family, job-stress...the least we can do is bringing to light what is happening to fellow Indians elsewhere in the world..
No politics can justify killing of innocent people...if congress and India can not get over themselves and help fellow Indians..the day we can claim to be atleast a regional power if very far away. Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6206708.ece
UN confidential report which came to light shows the SL government bombing the safe-zone they allocated for civilians since the offensive began. For the first time, besides each side accusing each other of the civilian killings there is some proof regarding who has done what.
It is a shame India does not act to protect the interests of its citizens even after this news came up.
We may be busy with our own issues here..economy, immigration, family, job-stress...the least we can do is bringing to light what is happening to fellow Indians elsewhere in the world..
No politics can justify killing of innocent people...if congress and India can not get over themselves and help fellow Indians..the day we can claim to be atleast a regional power if very far away. Heck, even USA is trying harder than India by using its muscle to block billions of dollars of IMF funds to SL for not caring about ceasefire.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6206708.ece
dilber
07-15 07:25 PM
For first quarter EB2 India will have 1/4 of 9,800(7% of 140k visas), which are 2,450 visas. I wonder
how u got 800 visas. I dont see much retrogression in EB2 dates other than some mild ones. And the dates move pretty fast on a whole.
About EB3: it wont be like now all the time. The Immigration reform bill wont keep failing all the time. There would be a time for it to pass in the next two years. As soon as it passes all our Employment Based categories, specifically EB3, will get greatest benefit with PDs almost becoming current.
Vdlrao:
First of let me congratulate you. You have been amazingly accurate time and time again about the movement. Do you have some internal sources:rolleyes:
Jokes aside I think you miss calculated the 2450 visas for the first quarter for the EB2 India. I think the 7% country limit is on a state as a whole including EB1, EB2, EB3, and others. So going by this India gets 9800 visas for a year without any spillovers. The spillovers happen in the final quarter only so for each of the first 3 quarters EB2 will get 28 percent of one fourth of 9800 and the same amount will go to EB1 and EB3 as well. so EB2 I gets 686 visas. But I agree with you that in the last quarter EB2 I will move very fast because it will get all the spillovers from EB1 and EB2 ROW..
how u got 800 visas. I dont see much retrogression in EB2 dates other than some mild ones. And the dates move pretty fast on a whole.
About EB3: it wont be like now all the time. The Immigration reform bill wont keep failing all the time. There would be a time for it to pass in the next two years. As soon as it passes all our Employment Based categories, specifically EB3, will get greatest benefit with PDs almost becoming current.
Vdlrao:
First of let me congratulate you. You have been amazingly accurate time and time again about the movement. Do you have some internal sources:rolleyes:
Jokes aside I think you miss calculated the 2450 visas for the first quarter for the EB2 India. I think the 7% country limit is on a state as a whole including EB1, EB2, EB3, and others. So going by this India gets 9800 visas for a year without any spillovers. The spillovers happen in the final quarter only so for each of the first 3 quarters EB2 will get 28 percent of one fourth of 9800 and the same amount will go to EB1 and EB3 as well. so EB2 I gets 686 visas. But I agree with you that in the last quarter EB2 I will move very fast because it will get all the spillovers from EB1 and EB2 ROW..
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gapala
02-13 11:11 AM
Lets see how a common member look at so called "GC Dream" and try to understand why there is no unity.
Is it what is called "Inspiration" which is missing? I guess so. Can we call it "Motivation"?
What else can we call that "thing" which stops us from uniting for a cause? "So far I am just "Encouraged" thats all, not inspired". Is this what it is? I do believe there is a huge difference in these 2 words.
Everyone in this community are Brave and Courageous.
Note: Do not jump on me asking What am I doing on all this. :) I think we just have to realize this to get a bigger perspective.
Well -
AMAN KAPOOR, JAY PRADHAN, HIMANSHU and everyone who are on the forefront are JUST ORDINARY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE HERE. the idea behind IV is to provide a support network. If people want to see success - they HAVE to be a part of it. The efforts of such organizations is not to make profits and then sell shares and perform well and then make people join it, it is to provide with a platform where people can help themselves.
This is truely heroic
Our primary issue is in our thought process. We want to do everything, we want everything in the world BUT we do not want to stand up and rise in unity. Not necessarly true in everyone's case. several people do not care about green card. Their approach is to stay here as long as they can (or They are allowed so to say) and if the situation gets violent or unbearable. They plan to choose the best option to move back to home country and take advantage of what ever is the exchange rate.
We want to blame IV leaders saying they are rude and pushy. We come up with discussion threads saying we must do this we must do that and finally we see these discussions just getting buried. Again Not everyone does that
Good examples of how communities thrive anywhere in the world are the Jewish community and the Patel community. The only reason they have succeeded is because they believe in themselves and their cause - they are all over the world and are united, they have managed to make their lives easier by uniting for their causes. There is no question that unity is the key but not easy as the individual goals are different. Unity is not constant..people unite based on the issue and its effect on them. Once the issue for which they united is resolved or becomes one of less importance" they will choose to stay away. There are several examples in the history even revolutions and freedom strugles. Unity pervails until the comfort zone then it takes its direction.
Look at us - if green card is delayed - we say - I dont care about it, India is rising - but are we going there? No way - no one who says "India is rising" will go - in fat they will be the first to apply for any immigration benefit. Again this does not apply to everyone. Some may apply for immi benefit but nothing wrong in that and they take that concious decision on the situation that odds of getting GC in this life is near 0.
Why are we individually so highly skilled and intelligent and capable but collectively so naive? As important this issue is for you, is not as important to atlease some of the members in the community. But still they will do what ever they can for the community with out any "inconveniene". That does not make then in admisible in this community. Does it? If yes, then thats the number 1 block to cross towards unity
Why do we always want others to do it for us? is it because if there is any opposition the active ones will be affected and we can escape? is it cowardice that stops us from being united? Not necessarly. No one wants others to do anything for them. (Not the people who start new thread with action items for others and pop under the hood). I believe majority of the people are brave enough to take courageous actions when issues are important for them.
I do admire the leaders in this community. We feel its cowardice because the importance with which the people who take lead on the issue expects others to take the issue at same level of importance. In order to be able to unite people on issues we will have to atleast "Convince" them that this is as important for them. I would suggest a poll to see how many are very serious about GC? Must to have, Nice to have, do not care. I am sure majority will be later 2 categories.
What is success? How can we achieve success? The word success is "relative". Success for one may not be a success for other."
Why are we finding excuses for not doing our part? "The reality is people do not think this is as important as going to work tomorrow".
Why do we always want to praise others but not do something? "No Inspiration". Inspire them and see they will turn the mountian around.
Is it what is called "Inspiration" which is missing? I guess so. Can we call it "Motivation"?
What else can we call that "thing" which stops us from uniting for a cause? "So far I am just "Encouraged" thats all, not inspired". Is this what it is? I do believe there is a huge difference in these 2 words.
Everyone in this community are Brave and Courageous.
Note: Do not jump on me asking What am I doing on all this. :) I think we just have to realize this to get a bigger perspective.
Well -
AMAN KAPOOR, JAY PRADHAN, HIMANSHU and everyone who are on the forefront are JUST ORDINARY COMMON PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE HERE. the idea behind IV is to provide a support network. If people want to see success - they HAVE to be a part of it. The efforts of such organizations is not to make profits and then sell shares and perform well and then make people join it, it is to provide with a platform where people can help themselves.
This is truely heroic
Our primary issue is in our thought process. We want to do everything, we want everything in the world BUT we do not want to stand up and rise in unity. Not necessarly true in everyone's case. several people do not care about green card. Their approach is to stay here as long as they can (or They are allowed so to say) and if the situation gets violent or unbearable. They plan to choose the best option to move back to home country and take advantage of what ever is the exchange rate.
We want to blame IV leaders saying they are rude and pushy. We come up with discussion threads saying we must do this we must do that and finally we see these discussions just getting buried. Again Not everyone does that
Good examples of how communities thrive anywhere in the world are the Jewish community and the Patel community. The only reason they have succeeded is because they believe in themselves and their cause - they are all over the world and are united, they have managed to make their lives easier by uniting for their causes. There is no question that unity is the key but not easy as the individual goals are different. Unity is not constant..people unite based on the issue and its effect on them. Once the issue for which they united is resolved or becomes one of less importance" they will choose to stay away. There are several examples in the history even revolutions and freedom strugles. Unity pervails until the comfort zone then it takes its direction.
Look at us - if green card is delayed - we say - I dont care about it, India is rising - but are we going there? No way - no one who says "India is rising" will go - in fat they will be the first to apply for any immigration benefit. Again this does not apply to everyone. Some may apply for immi benefit but nothing wrong in that and they take that concious decision on the situation that odds of getting GC in this life is near 0.
Why are we individually so highly skilled and intelligent and capable but collectively so naive? As important this issue is for you, is not as important to atlease some of the members in the community. But still they will do what ever they can for the community with out any "inconveniene". That does not make then in admisible in this community. Does it? If yes, then thats the number 1 block to cross towards unity
Why do we always want others to do it for us? is it because if there is any opposition the active ones will be affected and we can escape? is it cowardice that stops us from being united? Not necessarly. No one wants others to do anything for them. (Not the people who start new thread with action items for others and pop under the hood). I believe majority of the people are brave enough to take courageous actions when issues are important for them.
I do admire the leaders in this community. We feel its cowardice because the importance with which the people who take lead on the issue expects others to take the issue at same level of importance. In order to be able to unite people on issues we will have to atleast "Convince" them that this is as important for them. I would suggest a poll to see how many are very serious about GC? Must to have, Nice to have, do not care. I am sure majority will be later 2 categories.
What is success? How can we achieve success? The word success is "relative". Success for one may not be a success for other."
Why are we finding excuses for not doing our part? "The reality is people do not think this is as important as going to work tomorrow".
Why do we always want to praise others but not do something? "No Inspiration". Inspire them and see they will turn the mountian around.
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abhijitp
07-04 11:20 AM
Need more titles!
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
GOVT AGENCIES SHORT CIRCUIT A MILLION HOPES... or something on these lines... but just mention Govt Agencies, so the common man understands
Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!
GOVT AGENCIES SHORT CIRCUIT A MILLION HOPES... or something on these lines... but just mention Govt Agencies, so the common man understands
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ramus
07-03 11:09 PM
Cool... Please put her contact email so others can send her email too..
Thanks.
Just sent her a thank you note and my letter above.
Thanks.
Just sent her a thank you note and my letter above.
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snathan
01-22 05:40 PM
Wow, you have a great suggestion for him, I am sure he took your suggestion and did the right thing, do you have a similar suggestion regarding immigration to Obama ?, if so you better let him know what you think, you seem very open minded about giving suggestions.
Please read all his post first and you will understand the reason for this comment.
Please read all his post first and you will understand the reason for this comment.
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diptam
12-17 03:59 PM
Is the new Obama Administration going to consider "Instant GC" if we buy a House ? I'm thinking about the huge inventory of vacant house and how many could be bought up by GC holders... Its probably a fraction - Isn't it ?
Thanks jungalee, for writing on this issue, that makes two of us. I think everything done by over 1000/2000 people together and every subject covered in letters from over 1000/2000 people makes it to the top. Most half educated (which is worst than illiterate) usually give priority to their petty differences and find reasons not to participate, which is why they remain "wise fools".
It will definately help to draw attention to our issues if more people in the community will participate.
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Thanks jungalee, for writing on this issue, that makes two of us. I think everything done by over 1000/2000 people together and every subject covered in letters from over 1000/2000 people makes it to the top. Most half educated (which is worst than illiterate) usually give priority to their petty differences and find reasons not to participate, which is why they remain "wise fools".
It will definately help to draw attention to our issues if more people in the community will participate.
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go_guy123
03-17 11:13 AM
such people cut in line in front of us and don't even bother paying money to IV. Why should we give them free advice. If they can spend money buying labor for 20K they can spend hundred dollars and consult a lawyer and ask their question. It is with such mentaility they are brought up with in their country- Currption and getting things done with money. But never paying anyone for a just cause. In my country people contribute only when they fear god in temples, for medical treatment or to astrologers!!
At least on this forum we can have the resolve to fight such people who are hurting most of us.
Good that DOL/USCIS is getting rid of labor selling by voiding after 45 days
( in the final rule that might be raised a bit ...to 90days ...which is justified and reasonable)
At least on this forum we can have the resolve to fight such people who are hurting most of us.
Good that DOL/USCIS is getting rid of labor selling by voiding after 45 days
( in the final rule that might be raised a bit ...to 90days ...which is justified and reasonable)
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_TrueFacts
09-04 12:49 PM
Just one quick question�?
If you get a chance as politician, Can you say you will not do any corruption? If some try to kill you, if you have power, will you be remain silent �?
Facts:
Hope you got the point here.
Sreedhar,
I agree with your comments.
In India, politics have been used to amass money, wealth and YSR has used his position for killings, land grabbing, scams etc.,
Make money the right way, no one stops any one. Where is the end to corrupt means? Yesterday YSR, today his Son. The biggest problem today India is facing is, people involved in policy making deeply submerged in corruption.
There should not be an excuse on comparison. If today we don�t condemn, tomorrow we will be affected. And being here we have to set an example to other people out there in India, living and working in USA is an experience that can�t be valued on paper.
If you get a chance as politician, Can you say you will not do any corruption? If some try to kill you, if you have power, will you be remain silent �?
Facts:
Hope you got the point here.
Sreedhar,
I agree with your comments.
In India, politics have been used to amass money, wealth and YSR has used his position for killings, land grabbing, scams etc.,
Make money the right way, no one stops any one. Where is the end to corrupt means? Yesterday YSR, today his Son. The biggest problem today India is facing is, people involved in policy making deeply submerged in corruption.
There should not be an excuse on comparison. If today we don�t condemn, tomorrow we will be affected. And being here we have to set an example to other people out there in India, living and working in USA is an experience that can�t be valued on paper.
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485Mbe4001
09-23 01:20 PM
Leave it to us 'Skilled' folks to shred an idea before implementing it. What is the harm in mailing out a letter. We tend to focus on bringing out the negatives and keep discussing issues till the train passes us by.
The bailout plan is a short window of opportunity, what is wrong in sending out some emails, we are not the only ones doing this there are hundreds of organizations trying to get their word in edgewise.
(I for one am even willing to write a proposal to 'buy' a GC, if EB applicant is waiting for more than 5 yrs since his/her PD, they can pay 10-15 grand to fast track application irrespective of the fact that the PD is current or not. USCIS stands to make 2 billion. I prefer paying 10k to uscis instead of the yearly drain towards my lawyers SLK.)
Anyways the point i am trying to make is that for this particular issue send out the letter, ask others to do the same and then discuss the merits of the letter. As the moderator mentions the window of opportunity is very small. Since you will be sending out your own letters, you can include any text to include current home owners or include only US educated or only EB 2 I etc ;)
well said sayantan..
This whole idea of linking GC to probable purchasing homes..is insane!
it stops short of black mailing...
The bailout plan is a short window of opportunity, what is wrong in sending out some emails, we are not the only ones doing this there are hundreds of organizations trying to get their word in edgewise.
(I for one am even willing to write a proposal to 'buy' a GC, if EB applicant is waiting for more than 5 yrs since his/her PD, they can pay 10-15 grand to fast track application irrespective of the fact that the PD is current or not. USCIS stands to make 2 billion. I prefer paying 10k to uscis instead of the yearly drain towards my lawyers SLK.)
Anyways the point i am trying to make is that for this particular issue send out the letter, ask others to do the same and then discuss the merits of the letter. As the moderator mentions the window of opportunity is very small. Since you will be sending out your own letters, you can include any text to include current home owners or include only US educated or only EB 2 I etc ;)
well said sayantan..
This whole idea of linking GC to probable purchasing homes..is insane!
it stops short of black mailing...
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looivy
01-13 11:53 AM
I think you should start EB3India.org (not affiliated to IV) similar to EB3Chinese.org
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
Good Things about IV
1. IV Core does not conduct its business in the forum. They learnt this lesson a long time ago.
2. All their work is done in the donor forum and behind the scenes by volunteers
3. If they feel that any idea is worth pursuing they invite that person (with the idea) behind the scenes and pursue that idea
4. All the work is done by IV members themselves because they are helping themselves
5. IV members are investing time and money to do work which impacts a large number of immigrants
6. That is a professional way to do stuff and i admire the way work is done at IV
Concerns of IV
1. IV always states about the lack of will of people to do something for themselves
2. IV always states that people just comment on forum but do not step forward to do stuff
3. IV always says that people do not donate enough and without donation a grassroot organization will not survive
What IV is doing wrong
1. IV talks about a holistic approach whereby the benefit to EB community will trickle down and once EB2 will become current EB3 will get benefit of spillover
2. IV is assuming EB2 will become current but with the number of indians coming to USA and number of indian students who will graduate from MS courses in USA over the next 5 years EB2I will always be backlogged
3. Plus we are not even talking about EB2 ROW and EB3ROW demand which could go up
4. Supporting the DV 55k bill to US educated GC applicants on the whole looks like a great plan. Sure here are 55k and here are about 150 k GC applicants. 150 - 50 IS 100 K. So if the bill passes we reduce the backlog by 50 k. Now i will am one of the person who will be getting a GC because i am US educated but my opposition to this bill is on principle
5. What IV has to realise is that it is not only IV members specifically but it is a whole lot of non IV members who are EB3 who have been a bigger person in this whole immigration retorgression advocacy scheme of things till now.
How let me explain. We have seen EB3 persons from 2002 who are still waiting for GC and who are not getting spill over visas because EB2 is using up all the spill over visas. So do you see any EB3 now complaining about the rule change supported by IV and made by USCIS whereby EB2 gets spill over visas. NO we do not see any EB3 complaining. That is because EB3 as a whole understands that that rule in the past being interpeted in a wrong way and the current way is the correct interpetation. Sure the old method gave EB3 some extra spill over visa benefit but the new interpetation caused EB3 to dry up compleletly. Now that in itself is against the very nature of self preservation by definition, But EB3 went along for the greater good
What IV can do right
1. Now we have this 55K DV Bill. This is something different from the spillover (which is law and cannot be changed). This is one time oppurtunity to alieviate the sufferings of EB group as a whole. So can IV which is supposed to be talking for the whole EB community do the right thing here and ensure (with advocacy they are so good at) that IV's stand is that 55K visa are given to all GC applicant from retrogressed countries based on oldest priority date first irrespective of EB2 and EB3.
2. The concequence of such a move is that long retrogressed EB applicants will get relief (Which is one of the point IV talks about in their charter)
3. Sure Many US educated applicants from EB2 and EB3 will oppose this move because lets face it, this move impacts their getting GC sooner. And if they behave like that they are in the same category as EB2 guys on this forum who do not entertain any idea which will impact their getting GC soon.
What wil happen if IV does the above
1. The DV 55K bill will NEVER pass in congress. This along with the other bills we have seen will bite the dust because no one in the current economic scenario would like to see more immigrants (US educated or not)
2. The DV 55K bill will fail but IV would have achieved what it has failed to do till now. Get the support of EB3 community which they claim to represent.
Synopsis
How how does this work. This is a suggestion for discussion NOT a diktat to IV core to implement. If IV core does not allow discussion on this (and moderate this because frankly some of your existing advocacy group members and volunteers do not know what a discussion is and come out both fists swinging) then that is IV core perogative. they have that right since this is their system and they worked hard for it, and they believe what they say is right.
One question i do have for all the members who have argued with me here. Have you seen all the discussion i have participated under and my other posts. Please do that before yelling that i was a member since 2006 and freeloader and all that. You need to do this because if i am you enemy (Scounderal, Liad weed, Anti Immgrant, Future USA etc) then don't you think to know your enemy is better.
On a funny flip side ...............................
How will this be treated by the current members
Ohh He is a liar, cheat, sounderrl, absurer, voilent person, free loader, smooch, weed, Anti Immgrant, future USA and other unspeakable things
By the way guys i am a She not a He
Adieu/Ciao
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Kushal
07-27 11:26 AM
If you are making millions with Amway, why are you sitting with a EB-3 PD ? Go for EB-5 :)
From Wiki "more than half of the distributors do not make any money, with the average distributor making less than $100 per month."
What has EB5 to do with amway?
Did I mention I'm making millions? Obviously on the way, but atleast I have something to fall back to if I loose my job. Do you?
From Wiki "more than half of the distributors do not make any money, with the average distributor making less than $100 per month."
What has EB5 to do with amway?
Did I mention I'm making millions? Obviously on the way, but atleast I have something to fall back to if I loose my job. Do you?
more...
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shx
08-02 03:52 AM
Guys! This is getting interesting. Guess what I found!! Now you can find out the names of your local friendly Amway Independent Business owners!!!
Go to https://www.amway.com/Shop/Registration/CustomerRegistration.aspx?Country=US
Scroll down to the section titled "Benefits of Being Affiliated with an Independent Business Owner", select "Show me a list of IBOs in my area that I can select from".... put your zip code and voila!!!!
I put my own zipcode 94536, and most of the names are desi. Confirms my suspicion that there are more desi's sucked into this than........
Now post what you find in your area!
Go to https://www.amway.com/Shop/Registration/CustomerRegistration.aspx?Country=US
Scroll down to the section titled "Benefits of Being Affiliated with an Independent Business Owner", select "Show me a list of IBOs in my area that I can select from".... put your zip code and voila!!!!
I put my own zipcode 94536, and most of the names are desi. Confirms my suspicion that there are more desi's sucked into this than........
Now post what you find in your area!
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chanduv23
02-13 11:50 AM
We have three now and atleast 8 who supported this issue on the thread
I would be the happiest person seeing this :)
Lets add a poll - we want honest takers on this poll.
Thread starter - please post a poll
I would be the happiest person seeing this :)
Lets add a poll - we want honest takers on this poll.
Thread starter - please post a poll
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msp1976
02-18 12:33 PM
I value Mr Unitednations posts as he provides us with the opposing point of view. That is absolutely critical. It would help us strategize and plan.
This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)
I agree that his arguments are valuable...
And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....
That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....
This has been a very valueable thread. It would be very nice if something positive can result from this. (I can't think of anything. Help me out if you can.)
I agree that his arguments are valuable...
And I believe that those must be countered point to point...
You see... our target membership audience consists of very intelligent people..They come to this site and read UnitedNations arguments...If they accept those arguments ... what would be the net result.???...They would just go away....It gets directly in the way of our efforts.....
That is the reason for this whole shoot out.....
newuser
07-03 08:13 AM
Here is the link (http://sharebigfile.com/file/190401/sharebigfile-2--com-Reporter-Contacts-Clean-csv.html) for the reporter contacts that was compiled for the last media drive
immigrant2007
08-17 08:56 PM
don't we have something better to discuss on this forum rather than shah rukh khan's personal issue.
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