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  • boreal
    05-29 01:42 PM
    Ok, the guy that sets the dates says that he sees no possibility of dates moving forward for EB India and ppl are still thinking there is hope? I am an optimist and try to see the brighter side - and that side here is that we know there is no hope for those past 2005 in the next two years. That to me is sufficient to make decisions and move on. Be it changing to a different job or going back to the home country - most probably the former for me.





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  • richana
    07-30 01:44 AM
    Met this dude once in a grocery store, he and his hot wife gave me the amway speil. I said listen buddy give me a time to visit your house and number. I called him and we played phone tag, one day I called and his wife picked up, i ASKED IF i could come, she was hesitant and said he was out of state for a conference but I convinced her that it's ok. When I arrived I brought a bottle of wine and then she was all over me in 5 mins. Sigh what a wonderful time....





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  • amitga
    02-15 06:08 PM
    What happend when a law contradicts another law. There is a law which says slavery in unlawful and 'employment at will' is the right of every person on US Soil.

    Now another law is that to limit the number of visa which is causing the voilation of above mentioed law. USCIS is follwing the law of visa numbers. In the process the other laws are being voilated. Somebody should be liable for that.





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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:40 PM
    Let me see if I understand PlainSpeak's language:
    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill, knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3 (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)

    3. An exercise to gain trust by misleading!:D

    I wonder why IV core did not come up with this brilliant idea ;)
    Mr willigetgc to start off with here are a few facts

    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill
    IV Core need not put a lot of resources to lobby for DV bill if they feel it is not worth the time and effort. that is for IV Core to decide and the decision is theirs to make after all they know about advocacy and lobbying

    1. knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!
    That is my personal opinion and also the opinion of a whole bunch of people on this forum who do not agree with me but do agrree to teh fact that it has been 4 years since any immigration friendly bill came to be debated in congress. What wil make DV bill any different. This wil also go the same way. I would be surpirsed if it even comes up for debate

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3

    My friend willigetgc what do EB3 people have besides hope. If you look at the statistics i will get GC in 19 year sand you with a priority date of May 07 (20 - 25 years). No reason not to hope for something and if IV really believes in what i suggested (I am sure it will go through all possible refinements) that would be a signal of not just hope but also action on part of IV to do something about EB Retrogressed folks. Now i am not saying it will happen and i am also not saying it will. All i am saying is here is a chnace to do something different which is also right because iot is not part of teh IV charter that IV is working to get relief for retrogressed EB

    (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)
    And what a great thing it is that you being an EB3 with a priority date of 2007 are working with EB2 hand in hand to get something done. It is great that you have trust with IV. Without trust nothing works. What i say is i have trust in IV i do not have trust that what they advocate is good for EB3. Semantics you may say but please read the lines carefully my friend. I hope you will understand



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  • iviviv
    10-09 01:14 PM
    Been contemplating Australian or Canadian migration to get around the retrogresion issue. Are there any former H-1Bs out there who got Canadian citizenship and then applied for US green cards? Please describe your experiences.

    How about any Australan nationals who obtained Australian nationality and then
    obtained US green cards?

    Please describe your experiences- both good and bad.





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  • krishmunn
    07-27 02:21 PM
    Nobody is misguiding anyone. Talk to your lawyer and find out. Amway doesn't offer you employment.
    What you get is 1099-MISC the same you get for your stocks and investments. Talk to your lawyer and find out.

    So you think Murthy folks are wrong ? BTW, attorney Khanna also says the same.

    You should first learn that there are different type of 1099. The one you get for Stocks and Investment include 1099-B, 1099-INT, 1099-DIV. Your Amway bosees will not inform you about these as they want your money.


    If you lawyer has said that you are OK with this unauthorized business I suggest -- change your lawyer.



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  • rghangrekar
    02-13 10:26 AM
    I cannot agree more with the posts from lord_labaku and kuhelica2000. In 2000, during the startup boom I used to work with so-called "experts" in say java that would have a inflated resume, but absolutely no knowledge of what is happening. I am sure based on how their resume was structured, all of them are in the EB2 queue (I am in EB3 BTW). Last year in Nov, a group of us were talking about GC wait times when a friend who was about to apply for labor quoted..."but I do not need to worry, I am applying in Eb2". I have seen posts on this site where people have solely focussed on EB2. If EB2 becomes current, then these dudes would stop supporting IV....

    Removing the limited quota per country seems to be the ideal solution. But it would help if we do not focus only on the category our application is in. It would help if , after some of us get our GC, we still continue our support for IV.





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  • grupak
    02-15 08:22 PM
    To all proponents of country quotas:

    Well, if there is a cap for GCs then there should also be a cap on the number of H-1Bs that can be taken up by a country. There should be a cap on the number of allowable F-1 visas to a country. There should be a cap on number of employees of a particular nationality in an organization. There should be a separate line for different nationalities in supermarkets. Fair? Happy?

    Btw, why is there no cap on H-1Bs or F-1s and only for GCs?

    Everyone lets not continue this discussion because it is going beyond what IV is about. IV core's solution is the pragmatic one helping all EB. Lets direct our energy on the action items.

    Mail in the letters by month end. Already few thousand letters are in. So, lets continue with the momentum. Efforts by IV and its members have already succeeded in fixing MI DL issue. Lets work on the positives. EB3 ROW has jumped ahead, and fellow IVians would benefit. So, everyone its time to be happy.



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  • alterego
    07-26 04:56 PM
    Also out of the 65K H1 visas that were available since 2003, most of the Visas were consumed by the Big Indian companies.
    Remember when Congress sent letters to the Big Indian companies, there was data related to how many companies applied for how many Visas.

    AFAIK it was in the range of 25k-35k per year combined by all these companies that filed H1s .

    One thing to note is, they do not sponsor GCs for all the applicants.They do them very rarely for the people who are in their 5th to 6th year of H1.Could be in the range of Hundereds and not thousands comapred to the people count they have in US.

    Yes, you bring up a valid point however consider these two points also:

    1) They also bring a lot of people on L1 visas.

    2) A lot of people come to the USA on a H1 with these Indian companies but then find employment with another US employer willing to sponsor their H1b visa and then move jobs, and transfer their H1b visa with them.





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  • nashim
    10-12 05:32 PM
    I don�t have money to buy a house now but I think the idea is really great because waiting line will be shorter for the person who can�t buy a house now like me, if people get GC based on this proposal.



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  • rajsenthil
    09-03 09:56 AM
    Why do u feel sad if people support SRK?
    Bcos it sounds odd to highlight and support the shadow hero.

    And why do u compare SRK to YSR?
    Both are not related to our immigration issue but discussed here.

    Don't demonize people just because just because they voice their opinions.
    I did not demonize anyone. If you feel that way, that is not my problem.





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  • bfadlia
    02-15 04:38 PM
    America is about freedom and liberty and is a law abiding country. Country caps is discrimination with people of two countries which have almost half of the population in the world. I am not saying increase visas for India or China. I am only saying increase the total number of visas and then make the system FIFO so that every skilled person in this world have same access to immigration.

    Finally an honest admission. You finally say there are more Indian and Chinese here because they have huge population.
    If you can't see the insult in keeping to say "best and brightest" then I would have wasted my time.



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  • cygent
    12-19 07:11 PM
    Thanks Cygent for posting it ...I guess there is some hope after all .. ..

    Yes, there always will be, Thanks albertpinto. To quote Shawshank Redemption - Andy Dufresne: [in letter to Red] "Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."

    Good Weekend Everybody!





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  • thecipher5
    04-23 12:59 PM
    priderock,

    There is definately an element of risk and it is high in case of LC substitution. In my case, the LC said that the candidate should have MS and few years of experience and I didn't satisfy all the requirements and eventually got a query from USCIS and rejected the application.

    If you can get it approved through a good lawyer like Sheela Murthy or Rajiv Khanna, then you can make a decision.

    At times, USCIS doesn't allow to substitute MS degree with experience and it depends on the wording of the LC.

    I'd read about this in different forums, talked to lawyers and friends.

    Still, you can talk to others who've done it and then make your decision.


    -- thecipher5



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  • gc_chahiye
    06-28 05:08 PM
    Still, just because DOS told USCIS "Visas are exhausted" doesnt mean they should stop ACCEPTING new petitions. They can stop APPROVING new ones, but why stop ACCEPTING new petitions. Visa bulletins guide the filing as well as approval of petitions. If visa bulletins is current, then they can both accept and approve petitions.

    right, and the worry (as is also noted in the AILA complaint that someone posted earlier) is that USCIS can consider the update from DOS to be the 'updated' Visa Bulletin.

    There is nothing that prevents DOS from issuing a visa bulletin at any time and making it effective then-and-there. AILA has raised concerns with this, that it is a problematic thing to do, but it seems to be well within the law. I dont think there is a chance of a lawsuit here.





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  • gimmeacard
    07-22 06:17 PM
    lately i have been observing the # of folks is reducing for Amway/Q, maybe newbies are not coming to the country in chunks now.

    offtopic ques :

    i am surprised i havent said anything negative about anyone yet i see RED DOTS, whats the purpose of having a rating stated with, did u find the post useful?
    maybe u didnt, but then why rate it negative? is this again few/limited desi behaviour or maybe some annoyed quiksters doing that



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  • thepaew
    12-13 04:46 PM
    It will be a total waste of effort. Congress has exclusive purview to regulate relations, commerce, etc. with foreign nations. No lawyer/court can provide quick fix and the case will not be heard.

    No shortcuts guys!! For any real change we have to convince the US Congress and the Executive Branch. And that involves time, commitment and money.

    It will be a waste of money. The US does not have to allow any immigration if it chooses so. Do you realize that getting a GC is not a right, but a privelege? It's a matter of grace and no court has jurisdiction to review if government says "no".





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  • grupak
    12-13 12:04 PM
    --I think, per country quota system was framed with diversification as underlying principle, not discrimination.

    Depending on which country you are from, it may seem like discrimination or fair system upholding diversity.

    If you are from India, you would hate it. There are truckloads of programmers in that country. But if you are the only graduate with programming skills from a country like timbaktoo (?), you would love it. You also got a shot at american dream.

    This EB quota system reminds me of Caste reservation system in India. To some that is fair, to others, it is unfair. Depends on which side of the fence you are.

    Fairness or not is not the issue. Question is can it be challenged in a court? Diversity at work place is encouraged through outreach for example. But you cannot discriminate in employment based on national origin. Employers can't put quotas for employee diversity. Employment based immigration I don't think can count because part of the requirement for holding the job is that the employee have a valid work authorization.

    For example, someones H1b 6yrs runs out the without possibility of extension, you cannot cry discrimination from the employer for not hiring you beyond 6yrs. As I said, the employers don't force you to not change job or job title. People don't because they will lose their GC or spot in the GC queue.

    As an unrelated side note, the current quota system is something that has evolved from past policies some of which was used to restrict citizens of certain countries.





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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 08:06 PM
    Dealsnet,

    Yesterday too, you put a similar message to me

    Shame on you for posting such kind of messages on a member. You seem to be a religious fanatic, no different than that dead thug YSR. That is the reason you are supporting him.





    sk2006
    04-01 07:37 PM
    Some time back when I asked my chinese colleagues to join IV they commented that immigrationvoice.org is an "indian" immigration forum...

    No wonder they felt that way.





    walking_dude
    02-13 01:26 PM
    I request you to rise above your tunnel vision of viewing people as Indians, Chinese and ROW. Start thinking about people as individuals. Then you'll see the light.

    By stating that through EB immigration one country is monopolizing the 'agenda' (what freaking agenda?), you are just regurgitating the spittle thrown by racist organizations like NumbersUSA and StormFront. I don't see any difference between your view and theirs. You both consider us "an invasion"! They are more upfront. You do it in a more subtle way.

    I was responding to threats we keep receiving on the forum that somehow removing the country will split the movement. Wanted to give some delusioned members a reality check.

    Finally you hit the nail on its head. That’s why the per country limit is there so no one country with larger population can monopolize any agenda the way you are trying to do with IV.



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