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  • vivid_bharti
    09-04 10:54 AM
    If Chrandrababu Naidu hadn't happened to AP, AP was like Bihar, Orrissa...Naxal hit & poor.





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  • chanduv23
    02-16 01:22 PM
    That is one way to look at things. The important thing is, whether the Judge looks at the situation the same way. It will be tough job to convince the Judge. If you seek legal opinion from a lawyer, lawyers mostly tend to say that you have a case expecting that that lawyer will be the one filing the lawsuit (i.e. making the money). So be careful with the idea and advise from a lawyer.

    And more importantly, even if 'we have a case', do we have folks who are willing to be plaintiff in this lawsuit. Are you or Googler or chandu (because he replied to my earlier posts suggesting that we will find someone to lead) willing to be the plaintiff, or are you encouraging others (putting the gun on other's shoulder to fire) to be the plaintiff. If you see that there is chance/value in filing lawsuit, why don't you decide to be the plaintiff? Either way, if you are a plaintiff or if you know someone who wants to be one, why don't you take this to IV team.

    Say we have a case, then to go to the next step we need -

    1.) Someone willing to take the initiative/lead
    2.) Plaintiff
    3.) Resources
    4.) There maybe more that I am not able to think at this time, because I no experience of filing class action lawsuit.

    How to find what we need to file lawsuit -

    For (1.), I suggest someone willing to give out his/her name as plaintiff should contact IV. I saw that folks are discussing this on too, but that site is not a non-profit. That site is owned by some guy who is earning good money of off the ads on his site. He won't spend resources to file for lawsuit although he has made good money off of the woes of others tracking their green card case status. So the only viable option is to get IV involved.

    For (2.), if you want to see this through, then, at least one of around 180 folks who voted for filing lawsuit should be willing to be the plaintiff. If not, then someone needs to make phone calls to find a possible plaintiff.

    For (3.), as mentioned above, I don't know of any one organized effort other than IV to lead such an effort of a lawsuit.

    just to keep things clear - I am against this. I voted 'no'. I just complimented lazycis's enthu in my post and I strongly felt that if these folks are so interested, they can form a google group and move their discussions on there and did strongly feel that probably lazycis has the fire in him to lead :)





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  • syedajmal
    07-14 12:14 PM
    A little Background

    My Situation -
    My Labor (PERM) and I-140 (EB2) was filed and approved thru Company A ( Priority Date May/15/2006). I was laid off from "Company A" with my last day being Fri 3/23/2007 before I could file my 485 thru them. I started working for "Company B" beginning Mon 3/26/2007 for which I have an approved H1.

    Spouse Situation -
    My wife also has her Labor(EB3) and I-140 approved and 485 pending with a priority date Nov/2002. Her 485 receipt date is July/09/2007.

    While I was leaving "Company A" I did let them know about my Green Card processing and they did promise to help me out if there was anything required in the future.

    With the latest movement in dates, I would like to move ahead with the filing of my 485. I do have a couple of questions regarding what will be needed w.r.t my current situation.

    I would like to know you expert opinion/advice on what can be done in this situation so that I can move ahead with my 485.

    Thanks in advance for your time.





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  • extra_mint
    03-27 02:55 PM
    Indian democracy can throw many surprises
    I think UPA will get 273 and if that's the case then MMS
    If NDA get's 273 (which is highly unlikely) then Advani (no Modi...otherwise also Modi's communal qualifications are pretty widespread outside of Gujarat). I like the guy but seriously PM of India and CM of Gujarat are 2 different things.

    And if Third front comes to power (they just need around 200 as once they get 200 there will be breakaway groups from UPA and NDA so they can touch 273)

    then we will see real democracy (read lust for power)

    First 6 month Mayawati >> Followed by Jayalalita for 6 months >> Followed by some one from LEFT (comorades work in groups..not sure who will be graced by politburo)

    Above cycle will be repetitive >> and Govt will collapse when Mayawati will complete her second 6 months Tenure.



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  • Macaca
    01-16 10:53 AM
    Wonder what is being achieved from these "lively" debates other than feeding the other side with enough ammo to decimate all of us.

    The funny part is 80-90% is complete garbage.

    As one example, my physician aunt while moonlighting (contracting) met another moonlighter (through staffing company) who was paid 100/hour less then her and put in a cheaper hotel/room. And this is 25 years back when there were very few Indians, forget Indian staffing companies.

    Will the memo stop company from keeping unknown %? Will the memo stop layers of companies sucking an employee contract?

    One truth: Indian employers mistreat their employees. But this is well documented (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum89-news-articles-and-reports/776770-the-yanks-are-coming-5.html#post1141683) and across the board.

    I have no problem with any individual but I hate my ex employer and their class (in no uncertain terms).

    I was earning for them, but he and his wife used to behave like big boss to me.Why I shed no tears for them.

    You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.

    USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.





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  • sk2006
    08-15 04:00 PM
    Your argument sounds like "Yes we do harass our own people here. So there is nothing wrong in harassing other country people"

    Not at all. That is not the point.
    Point is, they have some rules and security setup(You can argue whether it is flawless or not!) and it applies equally to all. No matter who he is.

    This is really good.

    In India Cops will not dare touch a celebritiy or a politican or Son of a big guy.
    Here if they pull over somebody and it comes out be a celebrity, he/she would still get a ticket. While in India, Cop will salute him/her, probably take an autograph for his kids, appologize to the celebrity for the inconvenience and let him/her go. That is the difference.



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  • mbawa2574
    02-15 04:38 PM
    Employers hire only based on talent, ROW people must have less marketable skills or not want to leave their countries and we need to teach the US on capitalist principles.
    You are absolutely right, you didn't miss my point, you completely lost touch with reality.
    People who keep asking that we just stop the discussion, tell me how we can focus on the issues with people telling us there r more of them here because they are smarter and more marketable. Is this their idea of how to bring us together?

    I will say we are one. We can a fair system which allows skills to be a deciding cretaria for EB immigration not the country of origin. If you ask me I will say there should be no cap on total number of EB Immg. visas and no country of birth cap. You want equality so stop supporting discrimination first.





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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 11:26 AM
    If you and other who have problems with this thread, don't like this discussion than why do you guys bother to come on this thread, just ignore it....

    Right on point again by vivid_bharti,

    How does deleting this thread improve immigration?Does deleting this thread bring back YSR? If some people are discussing a topic, let them do so..if you have point contribute a line or 2 to it.

    I rephrase: The reason we even discuss these things here other than immigration is because we have immigrated and we have a common bonding.



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  • dixie
    05-10 05:03 PM
    even if labor market tests are the right way to go, there is no justification for the enormous bureacracy involved in the US EB system. Consider the time it takes to clear labor certification .. 4-6 months under PERM.Then why another 4-6 years after that to issue the green card ? If the person has already proven he is in a speciality occupation, why the additional bureacracy, and retrogression in the name of "diversity" ? Current policy just smacks of ambivalence.. immigrants are needed for the economy, yet the rules dont acknowledge their utility by offering a painless path to permanent residency.





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  • test101
    07-10 11:31 AM
    I started the process myself. I got a job offer in one of Vancouve hospitals. I'll be there in 2 months. never the less i was hoping that i'll stay next to my family in the US :)



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-03 10:11 PM
    breddy2000,

    You see YSR is in high point, as for you corruption, blood politics, mafia by him are no big deal and normal. What should I say? You are better fit to immigrate to Somalia, Afghanistan or Colombia.

    Every one does that, is that a reason. You claim that you are not a supporter of any one. If that is the case then give due credit where required and criticize and condemn when it’s appropriate.

    As posted by abracadabra102 YSR exactly fits for "No better friend, No worse enemy" and in due course he amassed illegal wealth, corruption and killings.

    His death is the reason this thread is here, living or dead facts are facts and yes Good Riddance that he is no more.

    Yes, will do whatever I can, humbly. In fact it is India’s citizens that are forcing these politicians to implement effective policy not the other way where people are living and enjoying an effective system.





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  • kshitijnt
    03-29 11:23 PM
    I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.

    Lets not bring Age into the picture. Manmohan is not much younger either and has had 2 heart surgeries so far. Economy is not the PMs only job. The real power rests with Sonia and my personal opinion is that Advani is a lot more competent than her. Manmohan is just a mask of Congress. "Mukhvta".



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  • gc_kaavaali
    01-22 02:01 PM
    I pity people who have coming to USA is foremost objective. In my case, i came to USA 7 years ago. Atleast i earned few bucks. But people who are dreaming about USA and taking education loans with the intention to payoff once they land in USA. It also includes people coming here on F1 with intention to work here. I feel really sorry!!!





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  • kittu1991
    07-16 06:02 PM
    EB2 is current now..."EB2 will be current within a year" gives an impression that EB2 which is not current will get current in one year...
    He is talking about Eb2 India.



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  • Tito_ortiz
    03-20 12:41 PM
    Hi, I experienced similar situation. This is what I did:
    Upon getting my PR and landing in Canada, I got job offer in the beautiful US. I kept visiting Canada every month, I kept bank account active there, I bought a car in Canada and transferred to the US (that was silly, don't do that) etc just in case I needed to prove certain ties to Canada and it would be transfer car to Canada again if I needed to go back.

    Then 1 year passed. I retained my PR just fine. However, when entering Canada, the immigration officer advised that I was going to end up losing my Canadian PR if I start going back and forth. At that point I applied for the Returning Resident permit. I wen to Canadian embassy in Seattle. Lady who attended me was very rude and told me that working in the US was not a valid excuse to stay out of Canada for 2 years. Then I claimed that I wanted to go back to Canada to open business there with my US experience within 2 years. Lady finally said "you guys don't love Canada, you just love the US". From there she signed the Returning Resident Permanent residency paper for 2 years. Now, five years have passed and I guess my Canadian PR status is unknown. I guess I could just return if I wanted. Last week I went there to visit a friend (it was raining like crazy in Vancouver, BC) and I entered the country without any questions. Therefore if you manage to get in, I guess all my PR status would still be valid.
    I also have my canadian PR. I know that I have to physically stay in CA for 2 years out of 5 to keep it alive. My question is if I enter just before my fourth year and live only for one year in CA .... what would happen ? At the end of fifth year when my PR card expires, will I have to leave CA ? Or is there any other visa on which I can move to or is there a way to re-apply for PR in the last year itself ?

    Basically bcuz of the retregression I want to go to CA but I have seen so many -ve posts about job scene that I am apprehensive. Hence was wondering if I can wait till the fourth year and still this GC mess is not solved would it be possible somehow to stay in CA beyond the fifth year.





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  • same_old_guy
    10-23 05:43 PM
    Buddy, if you want to do substitution - just do it. Talk to some lawyer and get right info. You dont have to gloat around here.

    I cant speak for others but discussing on labor sub is like itching the wound. Most people here really hate the whole concept of labor sub. Lets not get in to other people's nerves at time like this.

    Good luck to you. No hard feeling.

    PS : There are lots of other forums you can get tons of information. for instance, murthy or immigrationportal.



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  • pitha
    02-18 08:47 PM
    Aiming London shooting Tokyo that's what your reasoning looks like. There's no point in arguing\discussing based on such logic.

    You are not a messenger, you are a opponent of 485 measure, I think there is a big and clear difference between both.

    If 485 measure is not of much help, I wonder why all the poeple who have applied for 485 keep wasting there time and money renewing there EAD every year.

    Don't shoot the messenger.

    A couple of studies came to mind recently that don't involve immigration.

    In Florida there was a plan over 30 years ago to build an artifical reef by planting 2 million tires. Seemed like a good idea but didn't serve its intended purpose and did the exact opposite. Now, 30 years later the person who pushed to do this is saying it was a mistake. There has been so much damage caused by this and now 30 years later they want to fix it. It wasn't studied enough and it was implemented and became a disaster.

    In 1999 at Laguardia airport there was a push to allow smaller airlines some space at the airport; even though the airport couldn't accomodate more airlines/flights. There was strong opposition but they did it anyways. Since then; it takes more then 45 minutes from the time your flight leaves the gate to actually get airborn. The flight time from Laguardia versus into Laguardia has a differential of almost an hour. Now; eight years later they are going to try to fix this. Even though it has been a problem for this long. Wasn't studied or thought of carefully enough.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Some people are of the opinion that people who have EAD and 485 pending should just shut up because they are enjoying the benefits of it. Well guess what; some of the biggest whiners are the people who have 485 pending but still want to do priority date transfer; are afraid of job loss; are afraid to change jobs, etc.

    Becuase of country cap of 7%; someone filing from ROW in eb3 in 2007 will get ahead of you in line; even though you are from india and a priority date in 2001. Currently, the limitation of ROW people is that they haven't designed a system to get h-1b so they will try to go the b-1 to greencard route.

    People who want to get citizenship badly. Once they get citizenship; what is one of the first things they do? apply for parents greencard or find a spouse and file their greencard (no waiting). For people here on h-1b or greencard and they want babysitters they get their parents on b-1 and try to extend, etc., but eventually parents have to go back. Now; without priority date being current they also come into the stream by filing a labor 140/485 while they are here.

    therefore, you may have a 485 filed but if it is going to take you 10 to 20 years to get the greencard; can you hold onto a same/similar job for that long? Do you think the next step of increasing the quota will come in six months? See my example of Laguardia airport; flight jams since 1999 and now eight years later they are going to decide to attempt to fix the issue. I used to be a frequent traveller and i can't even begin to tell you how inconvenient it is for business travelers to have that type of wait.

    To give you an example; I will post an example of someone on visitor visa trying to get greencard (note; this was a personal e-mail that was sent to me;just in case there are doubters).





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  • Rohan99
    07-30 01:20 AM
    psaxena ..... Are you obsessed with GC? This thread is about amway not immigration. Try to learn differentiating

    You need to Grow up instead of saying others. Use your common sense next time you post such things, Read thread topic before writing anything.



    Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

    The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

    No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.





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  • bfadlia
    02-16 12:33 PM
    There may be truth in it. But not completely so. There are are lot of well qualified and experienced people. But there may be frauds too.



    Again it is a mixture of all kind of types coming through the consultants.
    So, the issue is that there are lot of qualified and experienced people in India that are willing to come to USA to seek better opportunities ( although these says , the students from top universities of India may not want to come here ) and i believe it is not that the consultant companies dump 'all who can walk' into USA. There may be a certain percentage that are 'deficient'.
    So, my main point is that , by virtue of larger population, India has larger number of graduates/employable folks. Plus many of them learn English ( if i need to communicate with people in other parts of India, i use English ) , may be with thick accent.


    mallu, i appreciate the rational arguments you made. But still a lot here falls under "yes we agree bodyshop practices are unfortunate, but let's pretend it has no concequences and it never harmed anybody" That is wrong.. I would hear time and again from ROW friends who land lucritive job offers here but when it's time to apply for H1 they fail because a handful of big bodyshops consume tens of thousands of visas for the exclusive offering in their homeland.. then we hear people now ask the remaining ROWs who managed to stay here against big odds to take another one for the team and help alleviate the problem of the big lines these bodyshops created and claiming this is for the sake of fairness and equality.

    i still see other posts with nothing but barking.. ok let it be, we can't do without those who have nothing to offer other than that.





    same_old_guy
    06-26 01:08 PM
    EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM :
    PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD RUMORS ! WE ARE ALREADY STRESSED AS IT IS. WE DONT NEED ONE MORE RUMOR LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW.
    IF YOU ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF LOGIC TO SUPPORT IT, PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, FOR GOD'S SAKE !

    IF YOU ARE FEELING INSURED, HELPLESS AND WITH NO CONFIDENCE - JUST REMEMBER, ALMOST EVERYONE IS FEELING THE SAME. JUST DONT HIT THE PANIC BUTTON BASED ON NOTHING, PLEASE !

    JUST FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR LAWYER AND MAKE ALL THE DOCUMENTS READY TO FILE AS SOON AS YOU CAN. THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO ! IF SOMETHING HAPPENS LET IT HAPPEN. NO NEED TO LIVE IT THRU TWICE, ONCE NOW AND ONCE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
    PEACE.:mad:





    chanduv23
    06-26 08:06 PM
    DOS allocates GC numbers to USCIS adjustment cases only as the point of approval is reached. DOS can set/move/retrogress PD based on info provided by USCIS about number of cases at point of approval.
    USCIS is not able to provide a good estimate of this number because

    it can not calculate this number based on USCISs workload, and
    it does not know the number of cases DOL will send to them. DOL again can not calculate the number of cases (it will send to USCIS) based on DOLs worload.


    The following are from page 35 and beginning of page 36

    The key to addressing this management issue at USCIS is to understand the dynamic interplay of priority dates and shifting workloads of three departments, and to know with greater precision and accuracy the size and details of USCIS� workloads.
    The tri-agency meetings seek to expand inter-agency communication regarding expected new demands and surges, workflows, and priority dates. During the meetings, there is an examination of the case management systems and data collection processes used to assess workflows through each entity, particularly USCIS.
    Although USCIS stated in its 2006 Annual Report Response (at p. 8) that it provides detailed data to DOS, the tri-agency group identified gaps in USCIS� data.

    So "At the point of Approval" DOS can actually set/move/retrogress dates. Based on USCIS input. As USCIS is not able to handle this accurately, chances are that at a particular stage USCIS may alert DOS and DOS may retrogress dates - chances are there (though I personally feel this will not happen in July)
    Which means what some of these lawyers are saying is not speculation but a definite possibility.



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