logiclife
05-10 05:19 PM
The slowness that results because of employer petition and bureaucratic delays(backlogs centers) and quota delays(retrogression) IS A HUGE PROBLEM. Please read my original post.
I am not saying that US system is perfect. I am saying that the employer-petition(if working properly and speedily) is better than points-based system(as two different comparable methods of adjudication for immigration) to protect the workforce from oversupply of labor.
If current system wasnt a problem, our work would be done. If the whole GC process took less than 2 years, it would be not bad and being stuck with one employer for 2 years is probably workable for most people.
And yes, please dont get me wrong, IV has not changed its goals or diluted its goals, I am merely voicing my opinion on the debate/discussion over different countries' immigration system and how they stack up against each other - both for immigrants and for those countries.
I am not saying that US system is perfect. I am saying that the employer-petition(if working properly and speedily) is better than points-based system(as two different comparable methods of adjudication for immigration) to protect the workforce from oversupply of labor.
If current system wasnt a problem, our work would be done. If the whole GC process took less than 2 years, it would be not bad and being stuck with one employer for 2 years is probably workable for most people.
And yes, please dont get me wrong, IV has not changed its goals or diluted its goals, I am merely voicing my opinion on the debate/discussion over different countries' immigration system and how they stack up against each other - both for immigrants and for those countries.
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jetguy777
07-22 11:23 AM
Theres no argument about EB2 retrogression. It will retrogress defenitely in the next few bulletins. But the retrogression would be mild one and that would be there only for a VERY SHORT SPAN of time. After that the cut off dates would run like to reach the CURRENT.
Vdlrao
Appreciate your thoughtful and encouraging posts. Continuing with Ron Gotcher's line of reasoning:
"It is worth mentioning that the CIS has never adjudicated more than 85,000 EB AOS cases in a single fiscal year - though this year it is possible they may process as many as 110,000 if they go all out. Keep this fact, together with the size of the backlog, in mind when trying to estimate how long it will take them to get to your case when your priority date becomes current."
How do you reconcile USCIS productivity with the number of visas that are available? In other words, although there may be sufficient numbers available to move the priority dates forward in the next fiscal year, USCIS can only adjudicate a limited number of cases per year.
Vdlrao
Appreciate your thoughtful and encouraging posts. Continuing with Ron Gotcher's line of reasoning:
"It is worth mentioning that the CIS has never adjudicated more than 85,000 EB AOS cases in a single fiscal year - though this year it is possible they may process as many as 110,000 if they go all out. Keep this fact, together with the size of the backlog, in mind when trying to estimate how long it will take them to get to your case when your priority date becomes current."
How do you reconcile USCIS productivity with the number of visas that are available? In other words, although there may be sufficient numbers available to move the priority dates forward in the next fiscal year, USCIS can only adjudicate a limited number of cases per year.
stuckinmuck
05-25 11:19 AM
Came across this link in one of our threads. I have friends in Canada who hate it there. They have not ended up becoming taxi drivers but feel they made a mistake going to Canada. If you need to leave the U.S., then a better option is to go back to your home country.
http://www.notcanada.com
http://www.notcanada.com
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vivid_bharti
04-20 08:05 PM
Several Websites(Not RSS/VHP) says Christians are 6% now, Muslims are certainly more than 17-18% as millions of Bangladeshi Infiltirators are unaccounted. It is very evident from the fact as Muslim Votes are the deciding factor in the almost most areas of NorthEast, UP, Bihar & West Bengal and that is the only reason, Samajwadi Party & Congress start the Babri Maszid rhetoric just before elections. As most of the posts I see here problem most people have with congress is their Defacto presidentship to the Nehru Dynasty, without counting their contribution to the country. Corruption in media to cover the family from day to night without holding them responsible for all the mess they have created for India in last 60 years. I would have had no problem with Manmohan Singh if he had ruled our country independently, if "Rahul Gandhi" and "Priyanka Gandhi" & "Sonia Gandhi" had to look into the mirror before endorsing him..They completely made a mockery of our democracy by putting puppets in PM's Office, President's office, CEC, CBI and what not. I wish It was Narsimha Rao or a Self Respectful leader who could stand tall infront of the dynasty, but Manmohan Singh sold himself... A quick fact check : Muslims are about 13.5% and christians are about 2% of india's population. So instead of 30% of india belonging to these two groups per your numbers, it is actually closer to 15%. Right wing extremists group use these exagerrated numbers to drive more gullible people into their communal parties. But you get those numbers from VHP/RSS. Check it tomorrow and it could be close to 40% !
It is religious freedom, not religious conversion. And thanks for enlightening us about the global plan to decimate indians by racking up numbers on their side. Are all of the indians coming to US have a similar plan because I am not aware of it.
Spreading fear and hatred using lies and stoking communal feeling to get votes is nothing new. Seeing educated people do it with such fervour is new.
It is religious freedom, not religious conversion. And thanks for enlightening us about the global plan to decimate indians by racking up numbers on their side. Are all of the indians coming to US have a similar plan because I am not aware of it.
Spreading fear and hatred using lies and stoking communal feeling to get votes is nothing new. Seeing educated people do it with such fervour is new.
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vinzen
08-18 11:20 PM
Oh... finally!
Welcome to IV
There is nothing special that you have written up there in your post. This is just normal stuff that most EB folks on this forum does. Why do you have to write such obvious things? You may agree or disagree with member's opinion but its sounds very naive to preach to this community about normal life.
Its apparent from post that you think the members other than yourself live a lower than average life? :D I guess you are mistaken.. Keep reading posts and you will eventually get to know better..
sorry, I love preaching.
by the way I was referring to "the guy who thinks americans think he is a slumdog...." not you or everyone. But then again you think that I think that you lead a life lower than average. If you think you agreed with me, instead of calling it obvious being defensive and, just agree with me. OK? And get that chip off your shoulder as well.
Welcome to IV
There is nothing special that you have written up there in your post. This is just normal stuff that most EB folks on this forum does. Why do you have to write such obvious things? You may agree or disagree with member's opinion but its sounds very naive to preach to this community about normal life.
Its apparent from post that you think the members other than yourself live a lower than average life? :D I guess you are mistaken.. Keep reading posts and you will eventually get to know better..
sorry, I love preaching.
by the way I was referring to "the guy who thinks americans think he is a slumdog...." not you or everyone. But then again you think that I think that you lead a life lower than average. If you think you agreed with me, instead of calling it obvious being defensive and, just agree with me. OK? And get that chip off your shoulder as well.
smisachu
06-16 12:21 AM
What is your qualification? I have been in this country maybe as long as you have been and can wager that I am more qualified than you educationally unless you will be publishing something which will win you the Noble. Still I am stuck because of this system. And I am not even in IT.
If you cast a wide net you will catch good fish, some bad fish might come in but that is given in any sample population. If a smaller net is cast the chances of only netting bad fish will increase. Similarly if Visa numbers and per country quota are more then some really qualified people will get in, if not only "Multi National executives" who can program MS Dos will creep in under EB1.
We need a visa recapture for any of this backlog to ever clear. And Darvin can go fry a fish for all I care.
To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.
Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.
In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.
In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.
If you cast a wide net you will catch good fish, some bad fish might come in but that is given in any sample population. If a smaller net is cast the chances of only netting bad fish will increase. Similarly if Visa numbers and per country quota are more then some really qualified people will get in, if not only "Multi National executives" who can program MS Dos will creep in under EB1.
We need a visa recapture for any of this backlog to ever clear. And Darvin can go fry a fish for all I care.
To be honest, I do agree that the US needs qualified people with skillsets. The real question is "Are the people from the desi consulting companies the real qualified lot ? " Just to get my background details out of the way. I am a new member, from India ofcourse, and I have recently applied for my citizenship. Now with this huge deluge of immigrants, especially from the desi consulting companies, I feel that my quality of life is getting adversely impacted. Do not rush to conclusions that I am anti Indian or anti immigrant. 12 years back when I first got my H1 visa, the requirements to qualify were strict. Staffing companies to a decent extent followed rules and tried to get the best and the brightest. Once the dot com boom started, people from all walks of life entered IT. This was true of not just the Indians but also of people in the US. Soon after the bust, the value proposition from these staffing companies was simply low cost. This is not to blame the staffing companies. They behaved in an economically rational way.
Consider this scenario. If you run a consulting company, wouldn't you try to maximize your profits by staffing people in projects at the least cost ? This is econmically rational. You wouldn't worry much about the quality of the deliverables and all you would care is to dump as many bodies as possible at the client site or offshore and get the maximum bang for the buck.
In this scenario, how is it feasible to expect immigrational justice when the bodies themselves dont provide exceptional talent and skills but simply offer low cost ? Now you would be tempted to bring in the analogous case of illegal low skilled immigrants. Remember they are just that - low skilled workers. They dont "steal" the jobs of high skilled workers. But this dumping of IT workforce has completely brought down the standard of living of the IT workers here. To be honest, those who get green cards today would feel the same way five years from now when the next wave of so called "skilled IT immigrants" offer even lower wages and destroy the quality of life.
In summary, this retrogression is good in a way. The truly best and the brightest would still be employed until their turn for adjournment comes in. Only the weak are currently scared of the delays. I went through the same torrid GC phase after the tech meltdown in 2001. I was not worried of my job then but many people whom I knew got clobbered and were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. Trust me this the bitter truth. If you people still consider that all the people on H1/L1 are part of the best and the brightest, they are WRONG. Only a small % (probably 20%) are the true best and the brightest and a good 50% will be flushed out. Sorry to say this and hey give me the red dots.
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aps
09-23 02:26 AM
Most of us are waiting in line for years by sacrificing their career growth and earnings with the so called consulting companies. what for? To get a green card by buying a home here? Is it sensible? common. Bring some common solution to everybody, not for few. If you want to leave some IV members behind, then you may continue with this idea. your proposal DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE to me.
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sodh
01-27 08:55 PM
Can please somebody reply, is this a non profit organisation or everytime somebody ask's some innocent question he is bombarded with counter questions like have you contributed, I can understand the frustations when there are freebee's but please everybody has his limitations,this reminds of bania's in mumbai you will get your your grocerries only if you have paid your previous debt's. Please don't force anybody, this makes every core members feel cheap, if somebody has to contribute he will contribute out of guilt out, of appreciation,out of obligation, we have not forgotten our dharma that is to help anybody that helps us.
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unitednations
02-13 03:34 PM
I interpreted that as allowing a country to go over the overall 7% limit in the total EB categories.....Which conforms to what USCIS did in 2005....USCIS allowed much larger than 7% from India that year...and they were within law...( Of course that can be litigated against if someone raises an objection ......)
So if my interpretation applies and after reform there are 290K total visas available then there is a decent chance of EB2/EB3 India China to at least come to 2005 PD levels if not current...
If they changed the law to have 300,000 visas but there is 400,000 people going for greencard; then there would still be retrogression. The unused visas from ROW would not get allocated quarterly but in the fourth quarter.
So if my interpretation applies and after reform there are 290K total visas available then there is a decent chance of EB2/EB3 India China to at least come to 2005 PD levels if not current...
If they changed the law to have 300,000 visas but there is 400,000 people going for greencard; then there would still be retrogression. The unused visas from ROW would not get allocated quarterly but in the fourth quarter.
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lazycis
02-14 12:58 PM
Galvez v. Howerton 503 F. Supp. 35, 39 (C.D. Cal. 1980)
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showpost.php?p=1838094&postcount=14843
"Plaintiffs herein allege that officials of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) have engaged in affirmative misconduct in failing to process their applications for adjustment of status to that of permanent resident aliens. They seek a court order compelling the defendants to issue them appropriate visa numbers."
"Where there has been affirmative misconduct on the part of the INS, the United States may be estopped to deny the availability of visas to those otherwise eligible but for the government's acts. See Immigration & Naturalization Service v. Hibi, 414 U.S. 5, 8-9, 94 S. Ct. 19, 21-22, 38 L. Ed. 2d 7 (1973); see also Villena v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 622 F.2d 1352 (9th Cir. 1980) (en banc); Santiago v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 526 F.2d 488, 492-93 (9th Cir. 1975) (en banc), cert. denied, 425 U.S. 971, 96 S. Ct. 2167, 48 L. Ed. 2d 794 (1976). The central inquiry here is the determination whether or not the conduct of the INS, including the failure of the INS officials to understand the applicable law, the improper rejection of plaintiffs' visa applications on two occasions, and the ensuing delay, constitute affirmative misconduct.
It is the duty of the agency to inform itself of the law which Congress has authorized it to enforce. The INS admits that its personnel were not familiar with the current statute applicable to plaintiffs' visa eligibility and thus erred in returning [**8] the plaintiffs' applications on the basis of a misinterpretation of the relevant law. This failure to act in accordance with law is an aspect of the agency's affirmative misconduct which the Court cannot overlook. Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. � 706(2)(A) (agency action to be set aside where "not in accordance with law").
Another aspect of the present misconduct relates to the agency's failure to fulfill a statutory duty. The INS has a statutory obligation to issue visas to qualified applicants to the full extent of the annual quota limits established by Congress. 6 The legislative history of the Immigration & Naturalization Act indicates that this duty has not been left to agency discretion, see S.Rep. No. 748, 89th Cong., 1st Sess. reprinted in (1965) U.S.Code Cong. & [*39] Ad.News, pp. 3328, 3337-38, but is obligatory upon the agency. "
"IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that plaintiffs' Motion for Summary Judgment is granted, and defendants' [**14] Motion for Summary Judgment is denied. The Court orders the defendant Secretary of State to issue A.T. Cortes and E. Cortes Fifth Preference visa numbers and to charge them to the 1979 visa allotments"
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showpost.php?p=1838094&postcount=14843
"Plaintiffs herein allege that officials of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) have engaged in affirmative misconduct in failing to process their applications for adjustment of status to that of permanent resident aliens. They seek a court order compelling the defendants to issue them appropriate visa numbers."
"Where there has been affirmative misconduct on the part of the INS, the United States may be estopped to deny the availability of visas to those otherwise eligible but for the government's acts. See Immigration & Naturalization Service v. Hibi, 414 U.S. 5, 8-9, 94 S. Ct. 19, 21-22, 38 L. Ed. 2d 7 (1973); see also Villena v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 622 F.2d 1352 (9th Cir. 1980) (en banc); Santiago v. Immigration & Naturalization Service, 526 F.2d 488, 492-93 (9th Cir. 1975) (en banc), cert. denied, 425 U.S. 971, 96 S. Ct. 2167, 48 L. Ed. 2d 794 (1976). The central inquiry here is the determination whether or not the conduct of the INS, including the failure of the INS officials to understand the applicable law, the improper rejection of plaintiffs' visa applications on two occasions, and the ensuing delay, constitute affirmative misconduct.
It is the duty of the agency to inform itself of the law which Congress has authorized it to enforce. The INS admits that its personnel were not familiar with the current statute applicable to plaintiffs' visa eligibility and thus erred in returning [**8] the plaintiffs' applications on the basis of a misinterpretation of the relevant law. This failure to act in accordance with law is an aspect of the agency's affirmative misconduct which the Court cannot overlook. Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. � 706(2)(A) (agency action to be set aside where "not in accordance with law").
Another aspect of the present misconduct relates to the agency's failure to fulfill a statutory duty. The INS has a statutory obligation to issue visas to qualified applicants to the full extent of the annual quota limits established by Congress. 6 The legislative history of the Immigration & Naturalization Act indicates that this duty has not been left to agency discretion, see S.Rep. No. 748, 89th Cong., 1st Sess. reprinted in (1965) U.S.Code Cong. & [*39] Ad.News, pp. 3328, 3337-38, but is obligatory upon the agency. "
"IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that plaintiffs' Motion for Summary Judgment is granted, and defendants' [**14] Motion for Summary Judgment is denied. The Court orders the defendant Secretary of State to issue A.T. Cortes and E. Cortes Fifth Preference visa numbers and to charge them to the 1979 visa allotments"
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andy garcia
02-23 09:51 AM
whatamidoinghere,
what is the source of you information.
Can we maintain a information on such numbers on IV itself so that we have one place to see it.
Here is the link:
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseData.aspx
what is the source of you information.
Can we maintain a information on such numbers on IV itself so that we have one place to see it.
Here is the link:
http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseData.aspx
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amoljak
10-24 11:11 AM
We have so much discussion on this topic in many threads but i dont know why people want to discuss samething again and again.
We know LC substituion is good for few and worst for many...
Admins can you please close the thread...
One person stepped out of the line and another one took his place... How is that worse for you (or anybody else)? (let alone worst) You are still 957,643rd in the line :)
We know LC substituion is good for few and worst for many...
Admins can you please close the thread...
One person stepped out of the line and another one took his place... How is that worse for you (or anybody else)? (let alone worst) You are still 957,643rd in the line :)
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eb2waiter
05-09 06:35 PM
Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.
There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D
For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.
Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.
I wont post on this thread again :)
---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---
There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.
There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D
For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.
Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.
I wont post on this thread again :)
---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---
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eastindia
10-15 03:42 PM
proengineer why did you create a new profile to post this?
Why are you marketing a lawyer?
Why are you marketing a lawyer?
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vivekm1309
07-23 01:48 PM
I agree, I read all the posts and went through some figures myself, the indication is that dates for EB2 will move much faster that we had all anticipated in the past. I do somewhere agree with my friend vldrao that dates could retrogress for a small period of time (say 1 month), but eventually dates will become current soon.
Thanks:)
vdlrao is everyone's friend these days ...not only urs ... :-)
Thanks:)
vdlrao is everyone's friend these days ...not only urs ... :-)
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Rb_newsletter
08-15 03:30 PM
Why are you guys talking about human trafficking? In this case SRK was not detained for that. He was detained only for his name match.
This is an atrocity of one particular officer. TOI article posted by OP says "There were other immigration officers who even vouched for me but this particular officer did not listen to anyone". You have to notice the gap here. SRK was detained for identity check because of his last name. When other officers vouch why he was still detained.
Thing we should be worried about is, if SRK - who has MPs and other big shots behind him to prove him - needs 2 hours to prove his identity, think about commoners like us. We may get lost without help.
This is an atrocity of one particular officer. TOI article posted by OP says "There were other immigration officers who even vouched for me but this particular officer did not listen to anyone". You have to notice the gap here. SRK was detained for identity check because of his last name. When other officers vouch why he was still detained.
Thing we should be worried about is, if SRK - who has MPs and other big shots behind him to prove him - needs 2 hours to prove his identity, think about commoners like us. We may get lost without help.
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gc_lover
06-28 09:51 AM
Hi,
Are they predicting just mid month retrogression or early month retrogression?
Thanks
Actually, they are not predicting anything. All he is saying is that it has happened before to "other worker" category and it can happen again to EB categories.
Are they predicting just mid month retrogression or early month retrogression?
Thanks
Actually, they are not predicting anything. All he is saying is that it has happened before to "other worker" category and it can happen again to EB categories.
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Rohan99
07-30 01:20 AM
psaxena ..... Are you obsessed with GC? This thread is about amway not immigration. Try to learn differentiating
You need to Grow up instead of saying others. Use your common sense next time you post such things, Read thread topic before writing anything.
Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.
The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.
No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.
You need to Grow up instead of saying others. Use your common sense next time you post such things, Read thread topic before writing anything.
Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.
The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.
No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.
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nozerd
05-11 04:34 PM
Depends on your income and number of kids. Check http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/benefits/cctb/faq_payments-e.html for more info. Some details below.
CCTB: Calculation and payment information
When are Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments made?
I did not receive my CCTB payment this month. What should I do?
How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
Can I start getting my CCTB payments by direct deposit?
How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
What happens to CCTB payments if the recipient dies?
When do we recalculate your CCTB?
What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
What determines the maximum payment for the National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS)?
Do the Child Care Expenses that I claim on my 2005 income tax return affect my CCTB?
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1. When are Canada Child Tax Benefit payments made?
Benefits are paid over a 12-month period from July of one year to June of the next year. Generally, payments are made on the 20th of each month or, if your annual entitlement is less than $120, we will send it all in one payment on July 20th.
CCTB and integrated payment* dates
July 20th, 2006
August 18th, 2006
September 20th, 2006
October 20th, 2006
November 20th, 2006
December 13th, 2006
January 19th, 2007
February 20th, 2007
March 20th, 2007
April 20th, 2007
May 18th, 2007
June 20th, 2007
* Note: Integrated payments include the BC Family Bonus, the New Brunswick Child Tax Benefit, the Newfoundland and Labrador Child Benefit, the Northwest Territories Child Benefit, the Nova Scotia Child Benefit, the Nunavut Child Benefit, the Saskatchewan Child Benefit, and the Yukon Child Benefit.
The Alberta Family Employment Tax Credit is issued twice a year, in July and January. The payments will be issued on July 27, 2005, and January 27, 2006, for the 2004 base year.
For more information regarding our benefit programs, please visit the Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) page.
2. I did not receive my Canada Child Tax Benefit payment this month. What should I do?
We generally pay your benefit on the 20th of each month. If your payment does not arrive on that day, please wait five working days before calling us at 1-800-387-1193.
3. How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
See How to change your address.
Top of page4. Can I start getting my Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments by direct deposit?
You can have your CCTB payments deposited directly into your account at a financial institution. To start direct deposit, complete the "Direct deposit" section on Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, or send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.
If for any reason we cannot deposit a payment into your account, we will mail a cheque to you at the address we have on file.
5. How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.
6. What happens to Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments if the recipient dies?
If an individual dies who was receiving CCTB payments for a child, the child's new caregiver should contact us and give us the date of the recipient's death.
We may still send out a payment after the date of death because we are not aware of the death. If this happens, please return the payment to us with a brief letter of explanation. See our listing of CRA offices for the one nearest you.
If you are the surviving spouse or common-law partner of the deceased individual and you lived with that person at the time of his or her death, in most cases you won't have to complete a new CCTB application. If certain requirements have been met, the children will be automatically transferred to your account.
If you are any other caregiver (such as grandparent or guardian), you will have to complete Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, and send it to us.
Note
If you are the new caregiver and the deceased individual was receiving payments under provincial or territorial child benefit programs that we administer, you do not have to apply separately to qualify for these payments. We will use the information from Form RC66 to determine if you are eligible for these programs.
Top of page7. When do we recalculate your CCTB?
We will recalculate your benefit and send you a Canada Child Tax Benefit Notice showing our revised calculation:
every July based on the returns that you and your spouse or common-law partner filed for the previous year;
after each reassessment of either your or your spouse or common-law partner's return that affects the calculation of your benefit;
after a child for whom you receive the CCTB turns 18 (the last payment you will receive will be for the month of his or her birthday); and
after you tell us about changes to your situation that could affect your benefit (see When to contact us about your CCTB).
8. What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
If a recalculation shows that you were overpaid CCTB, we will send you a notice to advise you of the balance owing. We may keep all or a portion of future CCTB payments, income tax refunds, or goods and services/harmonized tax credit (GST/HST) credits until the balance is repaid.
9. How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
You can use our new online service to get an estimate of your benefits.
Your CCTB payments for the 12 - month period of July 2006 to June 2007 are calculated using the following information:
The number of children you have;
Your province or territory of residence;
Your 2005 family net income;
Your or your spouse or common-law partner's claim for child care expenses for 2005; and
Your child's eligibility for the Child Disability Benefit.
Basic benefit:
The basic benefit is $1,255 ($104.58 a month) for each child under age 18 (the basic benefit is different for residents of Alberta, see the note below).
There is a supplement of $88 ($7.33 a month) for your third and each additional child.
There is a supplement of $249 ($20.75 a month) for each child who is six years of age. This supplement is reduced by 25% of any amount you or your spouse or common-law partner claimed for child care expenses on your income tax return. Eligible families with children under six years of age will receive the new Universal Child Care Benefit.
We subtract a benefit reduction from this amount if your family net income is more than $36,378. For a one-child family, the reduction is 2% of the amount of your family net income that is more than $36,378. For families with two or more children, the reduction is 4%.
Note
The Alberta provincial government has chosen to vary the amount of the basic benefit that its residents receive. The basic benefit is:
$1,147 ($95.58 a month) for children under 7;
$1,225 ($102.08 a month) for children 7 to 11;
$1,373 ($114.41 a month) for children 12 to 15; and
$1,452 ($121.00 a month) for children 16 or 17.
National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS):
One-child family: $1,945 a year ($162.08 a month). This amount is reduced by 12.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Two-child family: $1,720 a year ($143.33 a month). This amount is reduced by 22.9% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Three-or-more-child family: $1,637 a year ($136.41 a month). The total will be reduced by 33.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Note
If you are on social assistance, the NCBS may affect the amount of your social assistance payments. Many provinces and territories will consider the NCBS you get as income and will adjust your basic social assistance by this amount.
Thanks for the response. Govt sends a check for each child every month ! Thats too good to be true. How much is the check for.
CCTB: Calculation and payment information
When are Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments made?
I did not receive my CCTB payment this month. What should I do?
How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
Can I start getting my CCTB payments by direct deposit?
How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
What happens to CCTB payments if the recipient dies?
When do we recalculate your CCTB?
What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
What determines the maximum payment for the National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS)?
Do the Child Care Expenses that I claim on my 2005 income tax return affect my CCTB?
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1. When are Canada Child Tax Benefit payments made?
Benefits are paid over a 12-month period from July of one year to June of the next year. Generally, payments are made on the 20th of each month or, if your annual entitlement is less than $120, we will send it all in one payment on July 20th.
CCTB and integrated payment* dates
July 20th, 2006
August 18th, 2006
September 20th, 2006
October 20th, 2006
November 20th, 2006
December 13th, 2006
January 19th, 2007
February 20th, 2007
March 20th, 2007
April 20th, 2007
May 18th, 2007
June 20th, 2007
* Note: Integrated payments include the BC Family Bonus, the New Brunswick Child Tax Benefit, the Newfoundland and Labrador Child Benefit, the Northwest Territories Child Benefit, the Nova Scotia Child Benefit, the Nunavut Child Benefit, the Saskatchewan Child Benefit, and the Yukon Child Benefit.
The Alberta Family Employment Tax Credit is issued twice a year, in July and January. The payments will be issued on July 27, 2005, and January 27, 2006, for the 2004 base year.
For more information regarding our benefit programs, please visit the Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) page.
2. I did not receive my Canada Child Tax Benefit payment this month. What should I do?
We generally pay your benefit on the 20th of each month. If your payment does not arrive on that day, please wait five working days before calling us at 1-800-387-1193.
3. How do I tell the CRA about my change of address?
See How to change your address.
Top of page4. Can I start getting my Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments by direct deposit?
You can have your CCTB payments deposited directly into your account at a financial institution. To start direct deposit, complete the "Direct deposit" section on Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, or send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.
If for any reason we cannot deposit a payment into your account, we will mail a cheque to you at the address we have on file.
5. How do I change my banking information if I receive my payments by direct deposit?
If you get your payments by direct deposit and your banking information changes, send us a completed Form T1-DD(1), Direct Deposit Request - Individuals. You cannot change your banking information by calling us unless you have other CRA products deposited into that same account.
6. What happens to Canada Child Tax Benefit (CCTB) payments if the recipient dies?
If an individual dies who was receiving CCTB payments for a child, the child's new caregiver should contact us and give us the date of the recipient's death.
We may still send out a payment after the date of death because we are not aware of the death. If this happens, please return the payment to us with a brief letter of explanation. See our listing of CRA offices for the one nearest you.
If you are the surviving spouse or common-law partner of the deceased individual and you lived with that person at the time of his or her death, in most cases you won't have to complete a new CCTB application. If certain requirements have been met, the children will be automatically transferred to your account.
If you are any other caregiver (such as grandparent or guardian), you will have to complete Form RC66, Canada Child Tax Benefit Application, and send it to us.
Note
If you are the new caregiver and the deceased individual was receiving payments under provincial or territorial child benefit programs that we administer, you do not have to apply separately to qualify for these payments. We will use the information from Form RC66 to determine if you are eligible for these programs.
Top of page7. When do we recalculate your CCTB?
We will recalculate your benefit and send you a Canada Child Tax Benefit Notice showing our revised calculation:
every July based on the returns that you and your spouse or common-law partner filed for the previous year;
after each reassessment of either your or your spouse or common-law partner's return that affects the calculation of your benefit;
after a child for whom you receive the CCTB turns 18 (the last payment you will receive will be for the month of his or her birthday); and
after you tell us about changes to your situation that could affect your benefit (see When to contact us about your CCTB).
8. What happens if you owe money for CCTB?
If a recalculation shows that you were overpaid CCTB, we will send you a notice to advise you of the balance owing. We may keep all or a portion of future CCTB payments, income tax refunds, or goods and services/harmonized tax credit (GST/HST) credits until the balance is repaid.
9. How are the Canada Child Tax Benefit and the National Child Benefit Supplement calculated?
You can use our new online service to get an estimate of your benefits.
Your CCTB payments for the 12 - month period of July 2006 to June 2007 are calculated using the following information:
The number of children you have;
Your province or territory of residence;
Your 2005 family net income;
Your or your spouse or common-law partner's claim for child care expenses for 2005; and
Your child's eligibility for the Child Disability Benefit.
Basic benefit:
The basic benefit is $1,255 ($104.58 a month) for each child under age 18 (the basic benefit is different for residents of Alberta, see the note below).
There is a supplement of $88 ($7.33 a month) for your third and each additional child.
There is a supplement of $249 ($20.75 a month) for each child who is six years of age. This supplement is reduced by 25% of any amount you or your spouse or common-law partner claimed for child care expenses on your income tax return. Eligible families with children under six years of age will receive the new Universal Child Care Benefit.
We subtract a benefit reduction from this amount if your family net income is more than $36,378. For a one-child family, the reduction is 2% of the amount of your family net income that is more than $36,378. For families with two or more children, the reduction is 4%.
Note
The Alberta provincial government has chosen to vary the amount of the basic benefit that its residents receive. The basic benefit is:
$1,147 ($95.58 a month) for children under 7;
$1,225 ($102.08 a month) for children 7 to 11;
$1,373 ($114.41 a month) for children 12 to 15; and
$1,452 ($121.00 a month) for children 16 or 17.
National Child Benefit Supplement (NCBS):
One-child family: $1,945 a year ($162.08 a month). This amount is reduced by 12.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Two-child family: $1,720 a year ($143.33 a month). This amount is reduced by 22.9% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Three-or-more-child family: $1,637 a year ($136.41 a month). The total will be reduced by 33.2% of the amount of family net income that is more than $20,435.
Note
If you are on social assistance, the NCBS may affect the amount of your social assistance payments. Many provinces and territories will consider the NCBS you get as income and will adjust your basic social assistance by this amount.
Thanks for the response. Govt sends a check for each child every month ! Thats too good to be true. How much is the check for.
chanduv23
08-17 03:21 PM
This should not be a silly topic and won't be...I want to take this opportunity to bring the bigger issue here... things happen for a reason... we all need to understand that we have to make a positive out of this issue... Atleast all educated folks like us should be able to channel our wisdom to those folks who feels that they are above all... That kind of mentality should need to change in INDIA for people like SRK and politicians and lot of business tycoons.... I believe this incident is very good opportunity, one more time, once again for all those conscious folks who live here US and INDIA to make things better for life.
"snathan" do not disappoint when people disagree with you... I 100% concur with your thought process...
"chanduv23"
I like the way that you put things in a perspective called your own prism. I do agree lot of things that you say but you seem lack of very basic fundamental human touch...
World is a BEAUTIFUL PLACE... Mother EARTH is an awesome place to live... do not fall into a trap those who morons used and twisted great peoples words and made this place worse for political gains/reasons. Please do not twist/turn the great one and only Einstein words and his context is different.
My point here is "Respect should be given by that acts that you do in life...should not be given just by demand"
All I am saying is that "IN INDIA WE GOT SOOOOOOO MANY PROBLEMS TO SOLVE" why SRK cribbing about this incident... and innocent/ignorant and un educated folks going crazy over there.... instead he can do lot of better things in INDIA so that he can be recognized all over the world and given respect.
EDUCATION, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION is the only solution for all the problems in the world.
Well - world is definitely a beautiful place. World is beautiful because of beautiful good people. Like there is a saying "How is house different from a home? House maybe be beatiful and big but it is a home ONLY if it is a happy place to live" and making the world our home lies in how we make sure that it is a happy place to live.
While your approach towards solving the problems is "education" in my opinion education does help, but that is NOT the only factor. Change happens gradually. Don't we all agree that the most educated people might be the biggest "problem creators"
WRT snathan - he is a personal friend and I know him. He is sympathetic towards poor and downtrodden and wants to fight against injustice etc.....
To snathan - to understand things in a better perspective, I recommend that you try this. Invite 30 hungry, poor, starving people to your house and provide them with food, education, good life and ask them to seek opportunities to better themselves. You may face the following
(1) People may get more demanding
(2) They may fight among themselves
(3) Some might steal from you
(4) Some might get into unethical activities
(5) Some might disrespect you and step over you
(6) They may show more respect to those who did not care for them and curse you for some silly reason.
You might find some good people who really do what you intend them to do.
Why I say this is - there is no GOOD POOR MAN nor BAD RICH MAN - different people behave different in different circumstances.
Did you know that India's independence struggle, American civil liberty struggle were all funded by rich businessmen - they trusted the leaders and gave a lot of money for campaigns for them to be successful.
"snathan" do not disappoint when people disagree with you... I 100% concur with your thought process...
"chanduv23"
I like the way that you put things in a perspective called your own prism. I do agree lot of things that you say but you seem lack of very basic fundamental human touch...
World is a BEAUTIFUL PLACE... Mother EARTH is an awesome place to live... do not fall into a trap those who morons used and twisted great peoples words and made this place worse for political gains/reasons. Please do not twist/turn the great one and only Einstein words and his context is different.
My point here is "Respect should be given by that acts that you do in life...should not be given just by demand"
All I am saying is that "IN INDIA WE GOT SOOOOOOO MANY PROBLEMS TO SOLVE" why SRK cribbing about this incident... and innocent/ignorant and un educated folks going crazy over there.... instead he can do lot of better things in INDIA so that he can be recognized all over the world and given respect.
EDUCATION, EDUCATION AND EDUCATION is the only solution for all the problems in the world.
Well - world is definitely a beautiful place. World is beautiful because of beautiful good people. Like there is a saying "How is house different from a home? House maybe be beatiful and big but it is a home ONLY if it is a happy place to live" and making the world our home lies in how we make sure that it is a happy place to live.
While your approach towards solving the problems is "education" in my opinion education does help, but that is NOT the only factor. Change happens gradually. Don't we all agree that the most educated people might be the biggest "problem creators"
WRT snathan - he is a personal friend and I know him. He is sympathetic towards poor and downtrodden and wants to fight against injustice etc.....
To snathan - to understand things in a better perspective, I recommend that you try this. Invite 30 hungry, poor, starving people to your house and provide them with food, education, good life and ask them to seek opportunities to better themselves. You may face the following
(1) People may get more demanding
(2) They may fight among themselves
(3) Some might steal from you
(4) Some might get into unethical activities
(5) Some might disrespect you and step over you
(6) They may show more respect to those who did not care for them and curse you for some silly reason.
You might find some good people who really do what you intend them to do.
Why I say this is - there is no GOOD POOR MAN nor BAD RICH MAN - different people behave different in different circumstances.
Did you know that India's independence struggle, American civil liberty struggle were all funded by rich businessmen - they trusted the leaders and gave a lot of money for campaigns for them to be successful.
villamonte6100
02-18 02:13 PM
Did you ask you lawyer? It's so much easier to criticize.
My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.
Congratulations!!! I think you really did a great job.
But what we are discussing here is class action.
My immigration lawyer laughed when I asked about a possibility of filing WOM to force action on my stalled I-485. So I proceeded myself. Yes, I did many mistakes but I ultimately prevailed. AILF lawyer and Assistant US Attorney could not believe that an ordinary programmer can write quality legal briefs and challenge the government. Some of my friends did not bother with WOM and are still waiting while others followed and received green cards. If you think outside of the box, you can achieve something others could not.
Congratulations!!! I think you really did a great job.
But what we are discussing here is class action.
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