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  • lahiribaba
    06-13 12:20 AM
    I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys

    1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?

    2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000

    3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.

    4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?

    For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.

    One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction

    1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
    2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.

    In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.


    look man wether anyone likes it or not fact is that jobs are going to two countries with a billion dollar plus population ... they are hardworking and they are verrrrrrrryyyyy hungry.... so even if you stop immigrants alltogether from coming to this country .. it does not matter. The jobs will simply go there (to China and India). After all the companies exist to serve their shareholders and not their employees and the simplest way to maximize profit is to cut cost. Simple!!! the outsourcing offshoring train has just started and there is no stopping it.

    You may argue to some extent that the complexity of your job will provide your protection but the fact is management is always scared off complex functions that require expensive resources (i.e human beings) .. management will always want to break down your job to lowest common denominator so that it can be shipped or done at lower cost. For that they will be willing to go all the way - including changing technology , buying into marketing BS or spending millions of dollars.

    Also if the american market dies is that going to be a very big deal ? not anymore .. the domestic market of both India and China is getting bigger everyday .. the fire has been lit and the horse has been left out of the stable .. its at a point of no return.

    So brace for the change because the times are a changing...





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  • at0474
    12-14 05:06 PM
    I find it abominable that there are still some humans(?) left in this century who want special benefits based on their race and country-of-origin in this 21st century !

    It's time people were measured on merit instead of he is Indian, Chinese or some other nationality. Eliminating country quotas is part of IV strategy on the homepage. If someone has issues with it, well you are working against IV strategy !

    Stop dividing people based on ethnicity - Indians, Chinese and others. Every one deserves equal opportunity, not based on their country, race or color (all abominable ideas to me) , but purely on merit.

    --What you said sounds very interesting. But it got me thinking, what if the merit is equally distributed by the country of origin and there is a limit to the opportunities this country can provide?


    Let us say there are 140,000 EB visas given every year. Based on pure merit and sans any regard to nationality. Don't you think it could potentially lead to more visas being consumed by one country?

    What if this country wants to ensure diversity to its social fabric?? How do they go about doing that?





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  • byeusa
    07-11 01:00 AM
    Don't worry. SSA would be broke by then. and then the dollar would have devaluated by another 50%. Healthcare for the masses is a failure, immigration policy is a failure, schooling system is failing in majority of the nation, rampant violence with kids shooting in the schools, is any think that is right in this society? Glorification of Paris Hilton on CNN continously, Britney Spears in the news on front pages of the magazines.. how much more trashy can it be?





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  • zCool
    04-28 09:17 PM
    Finally!!!..
    So what happened with Murthy's contacts and advice to INS officials etc???? :p
    This is too little .. too late..
    Most of the crooks already used up or sold after initial bulletin in march!
    But better late than never..



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  • logiclife
    01-23 06:06 PM
    Sorry, we cannot allow profanity here even if it has a couple of ** in it.

    Rest assured, I feel the same way. 18 months prison time is nothing for the amount of damage that these desi employer maggots are doing to everyone. It should be atleast 5 years so that he can have time to think about these things.





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  • ivar
    08-15 12:23 PM
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  • franklin
    02-13 01:45 AM
    Do not evade the question, is it okay to limit the number of gold medals per country to 7% of all? Talk about athletics or swimming, not soccer. Do you believe there are "too many" swimmers from Australia or the USA in every Olympics? It just does not seem right... the quota system kills competitive spirit.

    Ethnicity has nothing to do with skill level. Consider this also, if no other countries come close to the 7% limit, but India and China are maxed out. Guess who loses just because of an arbitrary limit? Guess where those unused greencards go?

    They go to a pile of greencards, left unused and wasted. Wash, rinse, repeat the same cycle year on year. June 07 will be a looooooong way away (if you are from a severely retrogressed country), don't kid yourself.

    btw... i was agreeing with abhijitp.





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  • NKR
    02-15 06:52 PM
    For the most part I think you're right. When I did my master's we were less than 10 white people in 200 in that major. Most of the indian people in there (about half of the 190) were H4s studying while the spouse came on H1 directly from India. And while I had to pay international tuition they got the in state resident tuition.
    When I finished my degree might I add in the top 5 of those 200 I had a hard time finding a job while my colleagues each knew someone who helped them land a job a lot easier. I did ok for myself in the end and I have many Indian friends so don't take this as an anti-indian post. But there are definitely advantages to be part of a big group that is concentrated in an industry.

    That being said, I don't think that we would be having this discussion in a normal world in which the GC numbers are enough. So stop the bickering and work towards increasing those numbers. That will make life easier for everybody.


    If the spouses are allowed to work, then their one or two years salary is more than the international fee that you paid. Who is the biggest loser.

    H4 people going to college is just a miniscule compared to the number of desi students who come here with a good GRE and GMAT scores.



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  • snthampi
    07-31 04:16 PM
    Some morons also gave me red. U do not have guts to express yourself out and just want to give red dots . It is quite cynical. typical of their nature. They do not want to have fun. They do not want others to have fun.

    I agree. For many people having fun is about making money. We can't change them. So, we need to just ignore and move on.





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  • prem_goel
    05-29 03:12 PM
    I strongly feel you guys are right regarding EB1 misuse. I also know of some people who are applying in EB1 using these loopholes. we should do something to stop this fraud.

    I've read other people's comments in this thread about how Cognizant is misusing EB1 category. I know a couple of folks who did that. This is something that should be brought up to the right people's observation. I plan to submit WH-4 atleast to begin with, against this company. Please PM me if you know anyone else who frauduently represented himself/herself for EB1 category.



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  • DallasBlue
    07-03 07:52 PM
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    just now sent emails to the above, Request you all to do the same to bring their attention.





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  • olivetheoil
    02-13 10:13 PM
    Count me in!



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  • mallu
    02-16 02:57 PM
    My friend, in 2003-2004 alone there were 136K EB greencards wasted. When recaptured, in the past they have been given to oversubscribed countries. That is almost an entire years supply of EB greencards.


    I didn't know they give significant percentage of the recaptured numbers to retrogressed countries. That is cool.


    As far as your last question goes: I'm amazed, given your interest in this subject, that you have not read the 2005-2006-2007 Ombudsmans reports which discusses in some detail how USCIS claims that it cannot provide data on pending applications by EB preference, country of chargeability, and PD. Do take some time to familiarize yourself with these reports (and read the damn footnotes.)

    I think i read only last year's report , that too the section concerning FBI namecheck, because at that time my PD was current most of time and i was stuck in name check. Now time to read rest of the stuff in Ombud's rpt.





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  • Rb_newsletter
    01-13 03:35 PM
    I just heard from attorney there are lot of debate going on in AILA and they are trying to stop this memo from being implemented...they are the one going to lose more business then the body shops....

    AILA should. I heard a lots of para legal staffs are already lost their jobs. Because there were less H1, and GC filings. Actually there is a huge economy based on immigration. If USCIS just changes the rules as they want that would affect lots of US citizens not just few immigrants.

    Lets see which businesses/people are making money out of immigration related activities.
    1) Attorney
    2) Paralegal staff
    3) Shipping guys (usps, fedex, etc)
    4) Airlines (because immigrant workers has to visit their home country periodically)
    5) Consulate
    6) USCIS
    7) Contractors in USCIS
    8) Port of Entry/customs staffs
    9) Notaries
    10) Doctors/hospitals for getting medical clearance for 485, etc
    11) Passport photo shops
    12) Airport staffs
    13) ....



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  • snathan
    05-01 04:46 PM
    Well said! Being an Indian-Tamilian, it pains to see the whole SL Tamil community caught between the devil (LTTE) and deep sea (SL govt). The SL gov't has used this war cleverly to nurture the hatred between SL Tamil minority and Sinhala majority deep, very deep almost to the point of no return.

    Thomas Jefferson, once said, "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine. "
    I really believe Jefferson's worst fear is playing out in Sri Lanka.

    Discalimer: I dont support LTTE. Also, I was pained and frustated equally when terrorists killed innocent Indian civilians. So, pls. don't jump on me on that account!

    I second this..





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  • poorslumdog
    05-03 01:48 AM
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    Dude you are missing his point. He did not call Tamils terrorists. he called LTTE terrorists and that is TRUE in all senses of the word.

    Its not he....Its you...yes, you are the one comng in three different IDs and supporting yourself.:eek:



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  • GCSOON-Ihope
    10-24 11:57 AM
    I 100% agree that selling or buying an LC should be absolutely prohibited.
    However the principle itself makes sense in some cases.
    A few years ago, a friend of mine was endlessly waiting for his LC when a co-worker of his (with an approved LC) suddenly quit to go back to his home country. The company (that was paying all the fees) then used this approved labor so that my friend could get his GC faster. Since that company was fair and honest, he never had to pay a dime for it.
    So, he got his GC a couple years ago and I am still waiting...
    Am I jealous? You bet! Angry? No. My friend took advantage of a legal loophole and, let's not be hypocrite here, who wouldn't have done the same in this particular situation?
    But again, making a business out of those LCs should be 100% illegal.





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  • breddy2000
    09-03 09:13 PM
    Comparing Ted Kennedy and YSR..not a sane mind would do.

    Amassing money in the name of fictitious projects is dynamic?
    Relentless swindling of money by the parties, leaders, ministers and bureaucrats is dynamic?
    Mobilizing and supplying huge money to prove your royalty to party in Delhi is dynamism?

    If that is the case then Manmohan Singh, Abdul Kalam what are they…they had every chance and more why don’t we speak about them the same way. Show me one personal allegation on Manmohan or Abdul Kalam.

    Yes, it is dynamism to stay in power and to mint money and for people like you…not for administration.

    Any one speaking against, has to deal with personal abuse, that’s even with opposition MLA’s. What happened to democracy?

    Since 60 years Congress has ruined India and people like Sonia and YSR are few examples of corrupt politics and YSR is openly involved. YSR is no different to a dictator.

    Corruption rampant in AP under YSR's regime (http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=145882)
    Mutiny.in � YSR’s new low (http://mutiny.in/2007/07/23/a-new-low-from-the-andhra-cm/)
    The Hindu : Andhra Pradesh News : YSR a champion of corruption: Chiru (http://www.thehindu.com/2009/01/23/stories/2009012360510800.htm)
    YSR the most corrupt politician - Telugu Movies - Zimbio (http://www.zimbio.com/TELUGU+MOVIES/articles/14097/YSR+most+corrupt+politician)
    Naidu to approach Centre on YSR’s ‘Satyam route of corruption’ (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/naidu-to-approach-centre-on-ysrs-satyam-ro/425227/)

    One can write a book on YSR’s corruption. AP has become worse than Bihar.

    Majority of politicians in India are corrupt . Why single out one ...Does it give you solace to ridicule someone who is dead....

    I'm not a supporter of any political leader or party and you cannot create one politician that satisfies every citizen of its nation. And that's a simple fact. As long as the vast majority of the population is satisfied with the party administration and get some real benefits out it, that's what I call a real political leader and I see YSR as one among them...

    If you really want to vent out your frustration, just go to India and do something about it. Why not change the things the way they are... Its easier said than done ...Don't you think??

    Looks like you created your ID yesterday , just to vent out your frustration. Maybe you are one of the Senior Members who wish to hide your identity just for the sake...


    Get a Life Man....





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  • small2006
    08-18 06:41 PM
    You are so wrong here...its not about growing balls or Americans getting frisked in Indian airports.

    It is SRK's BIG EGO that was hurt, the fact that the officer did not "recognize" SRK - the "king khan" and made him go through a rough ordeal. That is all it is about. And to me SRK has never been an honest human being. It is all a put on appearance, whether its in his movies or real life. He is very measured and guarded when talking to the media and presents his affable side. So get over it and look at the incident for what it is - i.e, SRK's big ego burst open. Its not about American security or Indian security or racial profiling. Everyone is just trying to make it out to be that but you need to be able to see thorugh that.

    When a person of Dr Kalam's stature did not even talk about his experience with Continental until months later, who the heck is SRK to make it out to be such a big deal? What is his achievement and/or contribution to the country after all? Making loads of money? Buying houses in London and Dubai?? Give me a freakin' break.




    simply racial profiling.

    i dont think SRK is over reacting.. many desis who are accepting that its a way of life suffer from "Slave Mentality".

    When was the last time.. a US diplomat or US socialite was frisked and detained for 2 hrs in indian airports?

    To all the jocks who argue "its part of life"..my advise grow some balls and realize one thing.. no matter how long u live here.. no matter whether u have GC or PC...u will always be treated like third class citizens.

    In the end its the color.. do you know beta.

    for the record.i am no SRK fan.

    Mamooty.. who is he?





    Lasantha
    12-14 02:48 PM
    His/Her country of origin and the state chapter is not really relevent for this discussion now, is it?
    :cool:
    Villamonte,
    Just so that we can understand the background of your continues opposition to this idea, could you please let us know your country of origin? Also some information about which state chapter you belong to will be great if you don't mind. :)

    Thanks.





    Legal
    07-21 05:34 PM
    Sorry, silly question. Does this mean that these 32k visas are available to the EB2 I/C folks in Aug/Sep?

    Nothing can be silly when it comes to interpreting USCIS rules and regulations.

    Unused numbers should be used before Sep 30th. There is no mechanism for overflow of numbers to next year.



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