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  • msp1976
    02-18 11:28 AM
    This is an excellent analysis of why do you see so many EB based immigrants from India and not from other places...The same arguments can apply almost identically to the Chinese immigrants...

    http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/sep2006/sb20060913_157784.htm?chan=search


    I have been following your arguments and I get a sense that though not explicitly anti immigrants, you are opposed to any concentration of EB immigrants from any particular place..It just happens so that at this time it happens to be the Indians....
    But a large concentration of Indians in this immigrant category is not an accident....nor is it just because of people preferring their kins for sponsoring....But because of the numerous facts enumerated in this article.....

    Of course you can dismiss this argument as Indians promoting themselves...but what the heck... I have to at least try...





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  • srikondoji
    06-26 12:47 PM
    Well....
    the rumour is that USCIS will accept as much as their parking lot can accommodate 485 applications.
    They will at best try not to spill over to the roads nearby causing traffic jams.:eek:


    There is possibility that retrogression begins in August. The USCIS maail department will acept only those cases the clerk could manually enter into the system by July 31st and then send all those applications back which he could not enter manually

    IV Roumor thread - lets give the 'Best roumour of the day' award to the most convincing roumor .....


    :D :D :D :D





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  • dvb123
    02-16 02:22 PM
    I think this discussion is enough. The ratio of persons wanting to file a case agains't USCIS is more than 85% . The poll never reduced to less than 85% even after a lot of members were added at different intervals.

    We need plaintiffs. People who have been working for fortune 500 companies or govt organisations or non profit organisations or university research or commercial research organisations will be the best fit because they will have a clean immigration history? I think we need a seperate thread for plaintiffs or a seperate group. What do u guys say? Somebody can also contact AILA also about plaintiffs. We may need to start a seperate thread or seperate yahoo group for plaintiffs.





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  • r2i2009
    01-18 08:11 PM
    Still Desi companies are not following Labor laws.
    I know a company in OHIO still exploiting H1Bs......but payroll being generated....


    Hmmmmmm......USCIS this is not enough.



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-05 03:27 AM
    It seems like YSR was a very evil man. We must celebrate now that he has died.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    Just as we celebrate Ravana's death with sweets and lights. Good riddance ... good for AP.





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  • apb
    12-14 02:24 PM
    I really don't see how removing the per country ceilings alone without increasing the anual quota will help the entire comminity. If you do that alone all it will do is make the date retrogressed for all the countries even further. So where's the gain?
    Getting the anual quota increased, not counting dependents in the quota and recapturing visas from passed years will help EVERYBODY.

    If people want to think that something petty as removing the per country quota is going to solve all our problms then all the best (and God bless us all) ! :cool:

    PS - Pardon me if this sounds harsh but this is how I see it.

    We need to understand that the basic premise of the removing the per country limit uses the assumption that there is enough visa for all of us. But sadly this is not true. We have ask for increasing the GC limit from 140000 to xyz. The last increase was in 1990 which was after 14 years. Now 18 years have passed and there is no change in that direction.

    Increasing limit cannot be fought in the court. It requires changes in law. Removing dependents from EB based GC consumption also cannot be decided in court. But removing per country limit for EB/GC can be decided in court. Just because we are fighting for one does not mean we are ignoring other agendas of IV.



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  • unitednations
    02-13 03:00 PM
    Whether overflow happens vertically or horzontaly is subject to interpretation and we cannot really say if EB3 ROW is getting any undue advantage.....
    That matter can be litigated.....


    You guys still think it is horizontal. This has been discussed so many times with reference to the law; the note in november 2005 visa bulletin; another lawyer who received statistics in chinees overall approvals for 2006 which were going to be close to 7% and you guys still believe this is a gray area.

    the november 2005 visa bulletin made it black and white. It is no gray any longer. AC21 didn't do anything to change to horizontal; only spillover is allowed in quarter not annual.

    Hard to understand why people think it is still gray.





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  • django.stone
    09-17 02:18 PM
    Do you have any data to back your claim? I beleive there are more EB2 China numbers than India. I remember seeing some data a while back where Indian EB2 & Eb3 ratio was close to 50% where as China it was 80% EB2 to 20% EB3. Which makes me think there are more EB2 china than india.

    You need to multiply ratio with total to get absolute EB2 numbers. If China total is 100, 80% of 100 is, 80 and if India total is 1000, 60% of 1000 is 600. I think people are saying here that in absolute terms India EB2 > China EB2.



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  • baladev
    06-15 10:10 PM
    probably they all GCs....:D


    What has happend to this forum....:confused: Where are the leaders?





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  • sachug22
    09-15 06:19 PM
    Cutoff for China will never advance India dates for spill overs.

    Exactly, there are more EB application from India and most of them are older PD, so with no rule, all it means is that India will get bigger share.



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  • django.stone
    06-15 02:05 PM
    dilip,

    i am not debating you point of view, in fact i agree that with the darwinism concept and hope the down economy brings gc to good & talented folks. your rollercoaster ride was from Mar 2001 to May 2003, about 2 yrs. in the current scenario people are waiting for 8+ years and most of them like myself at least 3 yrs. the situation is indeed different this time around with labor substitution, L1, porting etc. causing delays for earlier people, that's why you see more venting this time around.





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  • Macaca
    01-16 10:53 AM
    Wonder what is being achieved from these "lively" debates other than feeding the other side with enough ammo to decimate all of us.

    The funny part is 80-90% is complete garbage.

    As one example, my physician aunt while moonlighting (contracting) met another moonlighter (through staffing company) who was paid 100/hour less then her and put in a cheaper hotel/room. And this is 25 years back when there were very few Indians, forget Indian staffing companies.

    Will the memo stop company from keeping unknown %? Will the memo stop layers of companies sucking an employee contract?

    One truth: Indian employers mistreat their employees. But this is well documented (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum89-news-articles-and-reports/776770-the-yanks-are-coming-5.html#post1141683) and across the board.

    I have no problem with any individual but I hate my ex employer and their class (in no uncertain terms).

    I was earning for them, but he and his wife used to behave like big boss to me.Why I shed no tears for them.

    You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.

    USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.



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  • mailmy_gc
    07-29 05:39 PM
    Guys,

    I live in a place, Where we can find very few Indians. Out of 1500 units of apartments we are the only Indian family used to live in.

    One fine day (of course relaized that was worst day) My kid is playing at the play ground and I saw one Indian couple was walking towards the ground. I was so excited (offcourse later exploited) that atleat my will get some company. He spoke to me nice and I introduced my wife. I gave my phone number ...

    After 3 -4 days I got a call !!!! He said, one of his friend (big shot) is retiring this evening, if you guys can join, The Saga continued ..

    We all went then I relaized that it is Quix !! I couldn't get rid of them for 3,4 months (Offcourse I am new to US that time). But atlast we told them we can not do ... Even after that he used to call us for atleast do this ... you don't need to do any thing we all take care of it.etc.

    While I am reading this thread, I am laughing myself alot and I read almost all the replies. Offcourse I don't think some of our friends are writing that some quix guys may read this threading and upset about it.

    Common even my wife and myself had fight about these guys and I was so upset for days and every time we meet I was so embarasssed to say "No".

    if you get chance read this book for How to say No in a polished way -" Power Phrases by Meril Reunion"





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  • srkamath
    07-24 08:18 PM
    Some lawyers (like the one mentioned here) like to advocate Consular Processing. At the risk of sounding cynical i'll say it..

    Lawyers are always trying to make money. During last July, several people self-filed I-485s, therefore lawyers lost business.

    Now if they create enough noise about long EB2 backlogs for AOS via USCIS, people might be scared enough to opt for consular processing, which is complicated enough that you'd need a lawyer !.

    I'm gonna ignore this lawyer's posts ..



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  • nixstor
    07-03 06:34 PM
    Wish the Senators a Happy Independence Day in the mail ....

    Lets go guys its time to fill up those emails and fax machines .....


    Please try to understand who is a senator and who is a representative. While that might not make any difference to us, it is of great importance if some one happens to get on our forums. Rep Zoe Lofgren. Not Senator Lofgren





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  • vdlrao
    07-25 07:01 PM
    I still believe in EB2 will try to catch up current by next October.



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  • chintu25
    02-13 10:22 AM
    :mad:BUMP:mad:





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  • jchan
    05-29 03:18 PM
    Well, I think the discussion is about people playing by rules are getting pushed back by those exploiting loopholes.

    Some members were trying to say we should not fight fraud because the root cause is insufficient visa number (and country quota). While he was right about the root cause, that does not mean we can't do the two things at the same time.

    See what happened to H1B when USCIS acted seriously about fraud? Most of the fake 'employers' or those applying H1B only to rotate people in the US got the message and really thought twice before they file a case. Result: two months from 04/01, there are still 20k H1B quota left. And this didn't even need any legislative change.

    What if USCIS starts scrutinizing EB1 cases for multi national executives? In no time they will find 50% of employee from an Indian IT firm are executives. This is not hard -- by common sense a very very small portion of employee are executives.

    Someone said we would do the same if in their position. Well they didn't know some people do have a line of morality. I am from China. There are many ways to apply refugee being a Chinese -- one child policy, Fa Lun Gong, etc. Yet I refused to do that and most of my countrymen didn't.

    If you didn't have patience to read every word of my reply, what I wanted to say is, fighting fraud and advocating more visa numbers are not mutual exclusive. We do not have to unite those who get their Green Card by fraud, because our interest are not the same with theirs.


    Can not agree more.

    We get engaged in all kinds of discussions EB1 Vs EB2, EB-I Vs EB ROW. bulletin predictions...But we all skilled immigrants can not figure out how to unite and resolve the big issue of backlog. When one person suggests any initiative( flower campaign, call campaign, letter campaign etc.) more 20 people hammer him or her and spend their full energy in proving how suggested idea will not work. Next time the guy does not even think about suggesting anything. On top of that some will come up with their line" Have you contributed, If not then do that first".Our lack of unity will keep us here for a long time to come. In coming months and years, some people will lose interest, stop visiting this site and move on. Others will come to see if there is any POSITIVE news and some will still keep fighting over the issues of EB1 vs EB2 vs India vs China Vs ROW.

    Good Luck





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  • rahulpaper
    06-28 07:07 PM
    Yes it does not say interim memo....the underlying point was that the directive comes from DOS once all these numbers are used up by approved applications and not "filed applications"

    The mid month retrogression can happen...not based on number of filed applications but based on number of approved applications....and if they have enough applications (preadjudicated) sitting for numbers to become available...the system should process all of them in one day...and you know what will happen then............


    http://www.imminfo.com/resources/cis-sop-aos/1-16.html

    According to this manual..visa availability is determined by Visa bulletin ALONE..no where it mentions to look for an interin memo from INS..





    BharatPremi
    09-25 06:05 PM
    Pre-adjudication means that this particular case can be approved because everything else (Biometrics, Name-checks and all other checks/documentation) is in place - but a Visa Number is not available to approve case and issue GC

    Earlier, USCIS wouldnt even touch a file and complete checks if the PD wasnt current. Now they pre-adjudicate - meaning they look at the case and determine if the case can be approved if the PD were current.....

    Assigning a Visa Number is basically same as giving GC...once a visa number is assigned, all they have to do is order the production of the physical card...which happens in a few days and in another couple of weeks you actually get the card

    Agree..about the clear definition of Pre-adjudication. But main question was about the accurate count of "Real pending" 485 which equals to "other pending" + "preadjudicated" + "awaiting cutomer response" + "new receipt" when you refer to USCIS's trend/volume charts.
    While the other worksheet in the thread seems to be depicting the closet values to "other pending" of a trnd chart so that worksheet can not be considered authentic for a total count of "real pending" 485 cases.





    sameer2730
    06-16 02:14 PM
    Guys,

    Please stop responding to Dilip. He is feeding of our frustrations. If he was still retrogressed he would be singing a different tune but never mind. Every response we give him makes him feel pleasure at our plight. To tell you the truth our plight is not bad. We just like to think it is. We have AC21 option. Remember when you could not file I485 how much you coveted that one option. If the employer withdraws I-140 and we have to file MTR so be it. People come out of it unscathed. It is still a low probability event. Take the bull by the horns and you will come out stronger. Even when you get your GC life's problems will not go away. We still have to fight for a better job, better pay, better quality of living and then we will not have the excuses we have now (Thats how Dilips of the USA are made).

    So lets take pride in ourself, use our options wisely and ignore people like Dilip. He is just pampering him shattered pride by telling himself we cannot get the salary he wants due to H1b , outsourcing .... . He is not worth it.



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