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  • snathan
    08-16 05:13 PM
    Well, explain to me, if an american celebrity, such as Brad Pitt or George Clooney is detained at IGI for 66 mins, taken aside for secondary in another chamber, made to wait,

    if robert gates (defense secretary), is asked to remove his shirt

    if ex president bush or clinton is frisked for secondary, would that be acceptable to americans?

    NO. We agree on the answer atleast. Do people in India have to KNOW them?

    You are missing the point here. Americans are doing what they are supposed to do. Our babus are not able to do anything to even ward consuler or local MLA. Whoes mistake that is.





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  • user1205
    02-15 06:31 PM
    probably true but because most of them are on H4 which means someone else in their family is H1.

    I think it was reported that students from India is the largest % of students in US universities.





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  • Lasantha
    12-14 02:17 PM
    I really don't see how removing the per country ceilings alone without increasing the anual quota will help the entire comminity. If you do that alone all it will do is make the date retrogressed for all the countries even further. So where's the gain?
    Getting the anual quota increased, not counting dependents in the quota and recapturing visas from passed years will help EVERYBODY.

    If people want to think that something petty as removing the per country quota is going to solve all our problms then all the best (and God bless us all) ! :cool:

    PS - Pardon me if this sounds harsh but this is how I see it.





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  • ivar
    08-15 03:27 AM
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  • kumjay
    06-27 04:20 PM
    Last one was good one from arihant.
    Lets move dates back to.......hmmm....when Columbus discovered America. Guys....Was Columbus on H1-B? Then he changed his status to Green Card....Gosh....dates were current when Columbus landed.....





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  • rbalaji5
    03-30 02:29 PM
    Do some research on Nuclear deal and see what it will bring to India in the next couple of decades. And tell me what Mr.Advani brought us when they were in power.

    We need food and shelter to sleep than Nuclear Deal I like your Future prediction of Nuclear deal.!!. (obviously, we are hungry and looking for food and place to sleep :)

    Letz change the Govt and see what will they do in future. (We did n't see anything big with Congress for the past 4 decades -



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  • cableman
    12-13 09:02 PM
    I can't agree more. In fact, I don't understand how we can argue the quota cap discriminate a special group. The quota cap system is very different from the case of which a man could vote but not a woman. The quota cap system applies to every country fairly. Every foreign citizen can apply for immigration. Any country reaching the cap will have to wait for next year quota. Perhaps it is *too* fair that the system doesn't account the world population distribution. IMHO I have no doubt that this case would lose in the court and I am sure that bringing this case to the court would make EB applicants enemy to the country. In the end, what do we achieve?





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  • JunRN
    09-23 02:34 AM
    I like the idea and I support it. Just want to make sure that we offer something that is acceptable to both Rep. and Dem.

    At first sight of this proposal, those who oppose "non-quota" migth turn off immediately and not be open for further discussion. Imagine, even investor visa has quota of 10,000 per year.

    I agree that the current situation might change their minds. This proposal is better than doing nothing at all. I, myself, is not yet buying a house until I get my GC or atleast be sure to get one in the near future. I am worried though that my bank savings will go to drain.



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  • gc_aspirant_prasad
    07-10 11:23 AM
    ByeUsa - all the very best. May be I ll see you in Canada soon too.





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  • pointlesswait
    06-02 01:17 AM
    country quota is not racial discrimination...u must be a fool to say that.

    To change the country quota..they have to change the whole philosophy of immigration in this country... Equal opportunity for all...

    Its absurd to try to change the country quota..we must try for recapture..instead..



    I do not agree ,
    They should not deduct SS/Medicare taxes, If i am not eligible for it.

    So basically you pay for a CAR , and you dont get the delivery.. What do you do??

    We have been trying for the recapture. And i see no success, or even close to sucess.
    A good lawyer, can prove that the country quota is a racial discrimination or is unconstiitutional.

    I may be wrong , and this is just my opinion.



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  • like_watching_paint_dry
    09-03 05:58 PM
    For the Police certificate at the Indian consulate, do they keep the passport for 45 days i.e. until clearance is received. Or do we get the passport back the same day on which we apply and then the certificate is sent later.

    Is this something that is required at the I-485 stage?





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  • Pineapple
    12-14 03:37 PM
    To summarize the discussions on this thread:

    Yes, it is 7 % for all countries.

    Now it is manifestly obvious that the 7 % figure is arbitrary, and not fair. That much we can all agree on.

    The real question, as raised in the first post of the thread by soljabhai is:

    (A) Is that constitutional?
    (B) (And this is the real question): If it is, what should we do about it?

    Intelligent questions, both.
    The answer to (A) is not clear. We need a competent constitutional expert to opine on the matter.
    For (B), (which is what the thread is really all about), there are lively discussions with differing views.
    lazycis has presented good evidence that the case is not cut and dried legally. It might be unfair, but those are the laws.
    mbartosik, alterego, me and others have argued (from different angles) in terms of pragmatism. (Cost is not worth the benefit)
    garybanz, soljabhai, and others have argued that it is worth it (Cost is worth the benefit).

    Anyway, agree or disagree, its an interesting thread with interesting posts..



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  • sunny1000
    12-13 03:30 PM
    The OP was whether the country quota is constitutional. My interest was to find out if the current laws and regulations are violated by the country quota.
    As lazycis pointed out, SC seems to uphold the current situation.

    I was not looking into arguing in a court whether a particular regulation is fair or not. The law is what it is (what I or you consider fair or unfair is immaterial), question was : Is the law being implemented or not? Seems like it is.

    To change the law, we as IV are lobbying and meeting lawmakers already.

    Unless a constitutional lawyer says otherwise, I see no reason to pursue the country quota in a court, considering lazycis post.

    You are right. The courts have long taken a position wherein they give a lot leeway to the Congress and the Executive when it comes to Foreign policy and immigration definitely falls under foreign policy.





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  • engineer
    07-03 12:04 AM
    IV release.:Please send it to other media offices and free press release distribution services
    http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com/

    I have sent the blogpost to chowk.com



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-03 11:25 PM
    If you don't know the difference between Policies and Politics I cannot help it.I'm talking about policies created by Govt in Power
    That's all I can say....Good luck

    CHANDUV23
    And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.

    breddy2000,

    Other than your unprecedented love for YSR there is nothing new in your postings and you are rambling on id's. How does it matter to you.





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  • thomachan72
    01-13 01:29 PM
    Can somebody who can access the document put out the important points/changes that are in there?



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  • vkrishn
    07-28 03:16 AM
    Can't make a a statement without getting personal eh? and people are getting under your skin..:D.. no wonder you can take the fact.. and probably the only thing you learnt from being in the Amway gang is to make these rants.. I am much better off than the begging the Amway guys (or rather WIMPS) do and get behind us everywhere so that they can show us how to become millioinaires..What a joke! :D


    Sure with dead bobhead braincells of yours, nobody expects your self image to be high enough. Its not for wimps wearing zippers to the side like you. If you are man enough come and talk to me, and will see who gets handcuffed.





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  • venetian
    05-12 02:15 PM
    Tamils in the US too doesn't ask a part of US armed with weapons.

    SL Tamils in Sri Lanka is fighting for their homeland which was unjust fully integrated by the Europeans/British with the Sinhalese majority south, paving way the Sinhalese to discriminate the Tamils in their homeland. SL Tamils are fighting for their homeland and not someone else land.

    Just like the jews, tamils practice their culture and language in sri lanka without been discriminated. You don't see Jews armed with weapons asking for part of USA for themselves.





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  • johnggberg
    07-10 07:29 PM
    but wish you all the best of luck in canada.





    lahiribaba
    06-13 12:20 AM
    I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys

    1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?

    2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000

    3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.

    4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?

    For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.

    One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction

    1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
    2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.

    In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.


    look man wether anyone likes it or not fact is that jobs are going to two countries with a billion dollar plus population ... they are hardworking and they are verrrrrrrryyyyy hungry.... so even if you stop immigrants alltogether from coming to this country .. it does not matter. The jobs will simply go there (to China and India). After all the companies exist to serve their shareholders and not their employees and the simplest way to maximize profit is to cut cost. Simple!!! the outsourcing offshoring train has just started and there is no stopping it.

    You may argue to some extent that the complexity of your job will provide your protection but the fact is management is always scared off complex functions that require expensive resources (i.e human beings) .. management will always want to break down your job to lowest common denominator so that it can be shipped or done at lower cost. For that they will be willing to go all the way - including changing technology , buying into marketing BS or spending millions of dollars.

    Also if the american market dies is that going to be a very big deal ? not anymore .. the domestic market of both India and China is getting bigger everyday .. the fire has been lit and the horse has been left out of the stable .. its at a point of no return.

    So brace for the change because the times are a changing...





    dealsnet
    09-04 05:26 PM
    Now I think new people are running IV.
    Aman Kapoor (Walden Pond) is not controlling now. That is the reason these idiots have got the admin previlages. Now they do nothing worthwhile. Bunch of jockers.

    If this was about you being having admin previledges,you wud have been taken to trial for misusing this board.....AH...



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