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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:19 PM
    Few questions for the self proclaimed expert analyst who started this thread -
    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation? I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.

    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread.
    Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim.
    Ahhh my friend forever_waiting, how are you. It is good to see your reply to the post. Will be do this the civilized way or the old way??

    In direct response to your post

    First i am not a expert nor an analyst musch less a self proclaimed expert analyst. Take that as a given and we can procced further

    1) How many lawmakers have you met to represent these provisions you claim to be so passionate about?
    None because i do not believe in supporting, representing or furthering the agenda of an organization which has loop holes in it and is determental to my case

    2) Have you visited capitol hill and tried to understand what the congress thinks about EB legislation?
    I did - during the IV advocacy event last year with hundreds of eb2 and eb3 members.
    No i have not. Why do i need to visit capitol hill and view in person what congress thinks about EB legislation when i can do the same by watching CSPAN(I am a regular watcher expecially when there is something immigrant related going on. All a process of expanding my knowlesge of immigration or do you think i got up yesterday morning and decided that i want to fight with IV. If you did then i am sorry i gave you more credit then that. And please do not start a new thread about how lazy i am and how i want others to work for me and how i just want the benefit without effort. That would be old and stale. If there is something to be done in which i believe i will be the first to jump in and volunteer


    3) How many members here have you actually worked worked with? Because the people I know here who actually do the grass root work with me (both eb2 and eb3) do not care about theb category they belong to.
    YES and i never said you are not fair. I know EB2 and EB23 owkr toghether in IV. My efforts of meeting people have been made outside the scope of what you and others do. I am being modest when i say this but i was the first person in my company to make generate awareness about what IV did and how it is helping immigrants like us and encouraged them to visit the website and read about what IV is all about. This is about 75 to 100 indains (EB2 and EB3) in an organization of size 500 during teh time period 2006 to 2007. Now most of them were EB2 so they got their green card and i am sure are no longer on the IV forum anymore. I am sure those who are still on IV forum are EB3 like me. How much they parrticipate, it is hard to tell. Maybe they were smarter than me and got dissalusioned with IV way before i did. They might be porting or they might not be for all i know
    Besides that i am pretty much regular on Murthy where i have provided advise or tried to help people with information whne i could (O f course all of this was H1B/ Visit Visa stuff). Even today on IV forum i am trying my level best to help peopl ewith information related to AOS/EAD/140/485 etc
    I am sorry because what i did till now is nowhere near what you and other IV volunteers are doing but i do what i can when i can.

    My friend forever_waiting, I hope i answered everything to your satisfaction

    As to the below
    I know you do not have any real responses...only abuses which you responded with on the other thread. Its funny how plainspeak is the one usually doling out the abuses but claims to be the victim. I am sorry i am done trying to explain it to you all over again. May god grant you wisdom





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  • sk2006
    08-17 02:40 AM
    It all makes sense now:

    Questioning a Bollywood V.I.P. Named Khan - The Lede Blog - NYTimes.com (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/15/questioning-a-bollywood-vip-named-khan/)


    " Mr. Khan is also working on a new film, �My Name Is Khan,� about racial profiling of Indian Muslims living in the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks."


    What a way to get the publicity for the film.

    Wow.
    We are all tricked into this debate.
    This is my last post on this thread. And I am not going to watch this film.





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  • mbawa2574
    02-16 08:27 AM
    No. I can't understand fairshot and equality when major bodyshops from a certain nationality flood the market here with people from that certain nationality, u keep ignoring that and coming back to the stupid suggestion that it's only because u have more talent
    suit urself, anyone who argues with you reasonably, tell them they are wrong and make assumptions about their motives and insult and alienate more members of your organization
    good luck

    Is this not racism ??





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  • addsf345
    08-17 01:21 PM
    Why should it be a surprise?
    How do PoE officers know if he is a film star in some foreign language movies?
    Even if they knew, why is SRK so special that he should not be checked?

    There was an instance when a pop singer from India(Daler Mehdi) was accused of smugling illegal immigrants disguised as musicians. Point is, if somebody is a celebrity, that does not make him/her un touchable?

    who is SRK?



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  • pointlesswait
    09-15 03:57 PM
    with everyone worried abt the economy and health reforms.. Immigration reforms are toast this year.

    While we must pursue the overall reforms,

    i suggest that we also seek temporary relief seeking lifting of the ban on filing for 485 for the next 2-3 months... this will help most EB3 and EB2 (I/C/) who missed the 2007 window.

    What are the chances of such a relief being provided?
    Will a mail campaign work?..plz raise your hand if you are interested..;)





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  • kiran_k02
    08-17 01:42 AM
    Exactly.
    This part amazes me most.
    He is an actor on a personal visit and now govt of India has to intervene.

    And look at the protesters.
    There are thousands of more important issues in India and they don't bother them while detention of SRK makes them protest. Hight of stupidity.

    Amen!!



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  • _TrueFacts
    09-08 10:19 PM
    The 'born again' politician – 3 (http://kumarsbol.blogspot.com/2009/09/ysr-1949-2009-born-again-politician-3.html)

    by Kumar Narasimha; Kumar is set for a comprehensive biography of YSR.

    Estimates vary on how much wealth YSR's very large extended family and circle of friends accumulated between 2004-2009.Some say it is close to Rs. 50, 000 crore and others say it is probably around Rs. 25, 000 crore. Whatever the number is, even Naidu's mind might have boggled at the scale, I reckon.

    So, what is the political and/or developmental legacy of YSR ? Large scale corruption through crony capitalism balanced by welfare doles to the poor ? Or is it, as seen by his fans, a balanced approach to development between the urban areas and the rural ones? Or, is it, center right to make business happy and center left to make the poor survive? To me, it looked like YSR focused on winning the 2009 election from day 1 of his first term and he did this by systematically giving out sops.





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  • Keeme
    05-12 03:08 PM
    get your facts right first. India is not actively supporting sri lanka. It would be suicidal for india (especially considering nutcases like you that exist) to even think of that again. Sri lanka is using israeli uav's and chinese fighter aircraft and artillery to fight the ltte. In fact, india is at a strategic disadvantage now because we choose not to help sri lanka militarily. And in fact, sri lanka has always suspected india of supporting the ltte. Read about the "string of pearls" geopolitical strategy of china before letting your emotions run crazy.




    India rightfully doesn't care about the ltte. Ltte is a terrorist organization. Period. They killed a former prime minister and it doesn't matter if you support the congress party or the bjp. This is beyond politics and concerns the nation. The primary humanitarian issue in the conflict so far has been with mullattivu. As soon as that stage started, shiv shankar menon, the indian foreign secretary went and conveyed india's concerns to the president and other higher officials in colombo. You tell me what india should do. Should we send the ipkf again maybe? Let's get realistic.


    Fine, i don't agree with my government all the time. But i don't say i'm ashamed of my country like you did. In this situation, india does not have any control unless we want to go to war with lanka. And the ltte is a terrorist organization declared by the usa. So now genius you tell me,what should we have done.


    Awesome. Good for you. India won't miss you either. And i can tell you right now, you are the kind of a person who will not have any loyalties anywhere but to a very small narrow race or culture. You do not understand the definition of a pluarlistic democracy and will never assimilate anywhere. The day the us says something about the lankan conflict or any other conflict which you disagree with you'll bolt to canada. I guarantee that. It doesn't matter to me what you do but don't go around misleading people here by casting aspersions on what india or for that matter any country can do in a complex geopolitical situation. You don't know half of it and you better grow up and admit it.



    Fyi, i am not tamilian but i have lived in tamil nadu for more than 10 years and can speak it fluently. Needless to say, i have a lot of tamilian friends and know the culture. I understand the suffering that the sri lankan tamils are going through, especially in the mullattivu region. But we have to understand this is a war which has been going on for decades now. What do you expect to happen in a war? Rave parties?

    Anyway hopefully, this will mark the end of the sufferring of both sri lankan tamils and sinhalese from now on. Both sides in that country have gone through enough already.

    Also i give a rats a** how long you've been in iv. It's your attitude and narrow minded selfishness which tell the whole story for everybody to see.

    well said !!



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  • sanjay
    03-27 12:01 PM
    One idiot without giving him name in comments started abusing in Hindi language.
    Dude when you have guts to put comments then put your name in it. So that I know who has issues with my comments to thread.

    And just don't give red " just for the sake of giving it make you feel happy ".





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  • srikanth
    07-11 06:23 PM
    Hi congrats and good luck !!!

    but, remember Once an American Always an American !!!

    Live free or Die !!!

    Please, do come back , when they fix immigration system... America does need skilled talented professionals like you to compete against outsourcing in a flat world.

    and remember Canada does not yet has a professional football team, go patriots !!!



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  • doknek
    07-17 01:33 PM
    If PD moves to last quarter of 2007 within a year, then there would be no candidates (EB2), since all will still be stuck in PERM audits which will take 6-12 more months to clear + I-140 processing time.

    So, they move PD dates faster but freeze PERM apps. I am confused:confused: Any insights?





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  • JA1HIND
    02-15 08:12 AM
    ........I strongly beleive that the H1B system and the EB greencard system has been setup to legally bring in high skilled workers as slaves and exploit them by taking away their freedom. We are no better than illegals, in the way we are treated by the goverment and the employers.
    I will fight this case atleast to try to prove my point before I leave this place.
    I am looking for some civil rights agency which can help me with the lawsuit. My fight is not for the GC, but it is for justice.

    Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!



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  • mbartosik
    12-13 07:16 PM
    As you use the phrase Check Mate....

    Chess is all about thinking strategically several moves ahead.
    Given the current political climate on immigration I think that we will be in a check mate position (on the loosing end) if we pursue that road.

    The anti's would be all over us as soon as we filed in federal district court probably even before a hearing, and definitely after a hearing. If we lost in lower courts the Supreme Court would probably refuse to hear the appeal, in the mean time we'd have just stirred up the anti's hornets nest against us, just as much if not worse than against the illegals.

    Asking Congress to make small changes in the existing laws annoys the anti's. Telling them or forcing them to wholesale rewrite their laws would make us public enemy #1. We would be lucky to have more than a handful of law makers willing to stand up for us. It would kill off all lobbying ability.

    Think of lobbying as polite negotiation.
    Think of Supreme court case as picking a fist fight, in which we are badly out numbered.
    Once you have started a fist fight it is much harder to negotiate, especially from a loosing position.


    I would rather negotiate than fight, I would rather lobby than court challenge.

    So yes, check mate, if we follow this route.
    Alternatively, a British phase: Royally screwed!





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  • Rohan99
    07-26 01:33 PM
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  • aranya
    12-14 03:33 PM
    So that interprets to "7% limit for every country" - seems to be "Equality"
    Equal yes but also separate and that did not work very well in the past, did it?





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  • snram4
    01-24 03:51 PM
    If you think Memo is illegal why can't you file a lawsuit. That should be right way. But I did not see any suggestion from any lawyer. But when when July 2007 issue cropped most lawyers rushed to file lawsuit. Now no one even suggesting lawsuit except some members in IV. Either most are not interested or they think no legal basis to contest memo

    I have been observing JoeF's posts from different threads. I can say for sure he doesn't know what he is talking about. He is just another sadistic person like snram4 on this forum.

    For instance JoeF says "he saw it coming" in reference to this memo. But the fact is, this memo is ILLEGAL. It has no legal base. Please refer to Murthy's latest newsletter. However members on murthy forum as well as you spicy_guy, thinks that JoeF is "knowledgeable". I am surprised to see that people who are here in this country for long believes all the BS that JoeF says.



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  • Openarms
    08-17 03:49 PM
    Well - world is definitely a beautiful place. World is beautiful because of beautiful good people. Like there is a saying "How is house different from a home? House maybe be beatiful and big but it is a home ONLY if it is a happy place to live" and making the world our home lies in how we make sure that it is a happy place to live.

    While your approach towards solving the problems is "education" in my opinion education does help, but that is NOT the only factor. Change happens gradually. Don't we all agree that the most educated people might be the biggest "problem creators"


    WRT snathan - he is a personal friend and I know him. He is sympathetic towards poor and downtrodden and wants to fight against injustice etc.....

    To snathan - to understand things in a better perspective, I recommend that you try this. Invite 30 hungry, poor, starving people to your house and provide them with food, education, good life and ask them to seek opportunities to better themselves. You may face the following

    (1) People may get more demanding
    (2) They may fight among themselves
    (3) Some might steal from you
    (4) Some might get into unethical activities
    (5) Some might disrespect you and step over you
    (6) They may show more respect to those who did not care for them and curse you for some silly reason.

    You might find some good people who really do what you intend them to do.

    Why I say this is - there is no GOOD POOR MAN nor BAD RICH MAN - different people behave different in different circumstances.

    Did you know that India's independence struggle, American civil liberty struggle were all funded by rich businessmen - they trusted the leaders and gave a lot of money for campaigns for them to be successful.

    --- Do these things or ASK our SRK/Politicians/Business Tycoons to do -----
    When I say education, you can not just isolate it from mother tree. It is root of the tree... all the branches grow from there...

    Like you said give education for those 30 children born from today and come back after 20 years.. see how their lives would be different for better then those 30 unfortunate children who are unable to have education.


    Give education for an entire generation of kids for 20 years....and let them figure out their problems...don't just feed them, don't just build homes for them...don't need to solve the problems for them.. let them figure out... that is what going on in USA.

    You can not tie INDIA and USA together.... all you are doing is comparing apples to oranges... don't do that...India needs to learn sooooo many things from countries like USA... not comparing to them.





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  • Subst_labor
    03-16 01:17 PM
    i am not paying anything, its a decent company from NJ. the only thing i am concerned about is that this experience was when i was IN college and it was a really small company (part time thing..)





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  • Ramba
    08-17 03:29 PM
    OMG. This useless news prompted for more than 10 pages. This clearly shows how Indians are victimized for cinema. This is a clear example to show popularity in cine field and money can do any thing in India. Millions of people suddenly back SRK. No one has bothered for APJ when he was frisked at Indian Soil. Now, millions of peoples, media, and government are backing this SRK, just for 2 hours interrogation that he faced in the airport. No one has bothered about thousands of innocent muslims they undergo similar checks at US airport, everyday. No one has bothered about some Mur�ali� from India has to wait additional 2 years for his name check to be cleared for his 485 approval. No one has bothered about millions of social security money contributed by H1Bs, that�s not ported to India when they returned.

    Why SRK should be superior than other passengers for ICE officers at airport? Is it because he is popular in India or actor or having lot of money? If so, what about other scientists or engineers having more credential than SRK, that undergo similar secondary inspections, if they selected? First, he is not on diplomat visa, to give a proper treatment. If SRK feels that his self-respect was not allowing him for the introgrrogation, he should have not landed in US. After all, like many others, he came to US to fill his wallet on eve of �independence� day. Those who support SRK should learn lessons from US, how US is strict in their rules. Because of this kind of �no exception� policy, they did not experience another 911. In India, if any one says I am the son of MLA or relative of an actor, or if he is a friend of airport manager, then he/she will not get any checks. They can easily pass all the checks.





    sanju
    09-23 06:28 PM
    i cant believe ppl think this is a brilliant idea..
    economy is screwed for a while..citizens are on life support..and you want immigrants to be welcomed with open arms..
    did i wake up in a fools paradise...:eek:

    You are right, in times like these immigrants should not be welcomed with open arms so its time for you to pack-up and leave. Visit this website when you reach home and let us know you reached safely... safe travels.





    Widget
    02-18 03:35 PM
    I fully agree with you. the point is that we are not powerful (EB peopel) in order to force the gov to do something about it. The farmers, illegals, helathcare EB peopel are in much better situation than us (regular EB peopel).

    My children are doing very well in schools and they are much better than any average student in the class and I can not take them back to my home country after they have achived good grades. My wife ca not work because she is an H4 holder, I can not take buy a house because I am not sure if I am going to have a job for more than 2 years.

    it is a very difficult situation and I have to think about a back up plan after beeing in this situation since 2003. By the way, I an ROW H1 holder.

    I have and approved I-140 (PD 01/2004) and I can not file for I-485.





    I can only give examples from personal life. My personal examples lead me to believe that a lot of people, though aware of retrogression, are unaware of what it really means.

    Six months ago, I thought that there was nobody opposing EB-based visa numbers. And I was pretty certain that my greencard would be handed to me in a few years.

    Then I learnt about IV. And I learnt about the problems.
    Then I tried to tell my friends about it at work. And the first reactions were 'Is the situation really that bad'?

    So, there is definitely a huge group of people who don't know what retrogression really means, and how screwed they really are.


    But again, these are personal examples. Maybe yours (people knowing about retrogression, and still not bothering about contributing/participating in IV) might have led you to a different conclusion.



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