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  • amsgc
    07-04 11:22 AM
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    Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!


    "The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9





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  • nozerd
    03-19 06:57 PM
    Please see answers in blue below

    so you mean to say that if I try to enter in fourth year, then itself I have to go to an immigration hearing and the judge would decide whether he would let me stay or not ?

    Please see the following link for all details

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomer/res-oblig.html

    Also can I apply for CA SIN staying in USA ?
    I think you can apply via fax, but would have to give someones address in Canada to actually recieve it.

    Should I be filing taxes there ?
    No you shouldnt if you are not residing in Canada and have no Canadian income. You would if you had Canadian income or you were residing in Canada but working in US.

    How do I get an address if I dont stay there ?

    Same way you got an address to receive your PR card. Friends, family etc.

    Thanks for your help.
    You are welcome.





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  • k3GC
    07-03 05:06 PM
    We have used Web fax in the past, I had also read in a different thread that it (faxes to senators) is how things work here. there were reports of how other groups had used and sent more web faxes than us etc etc ....

    Why dont we do that now.

    Fax to every senator, include the congress womans letter

    Make an IV statement supporting the congresswoman

    Lot of people will join the fax campaign

    Let us try multiple avenues - Lawsuit , blogs, faxes, media etc etc.

    Let us create as much noise as we can

    Please enable the web fax.





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  • raydon
    08-16 10:14 AM
    What's the big deal about Shahrukh Khan getting interrogated? One of the top Malayali actors Mammooty had to go through the same experience because of his Muslim name, but he didn't make a big deal about it. Security procedures need to be followed, whether you are Shahrukh Khan or anyone else.



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  • venky321
    01-13 07:31 PM
    what the heck is all this
    i cant even understand a single word
    is it going to effect the students who did their masters here?
    right now im working as a contractor i did my masters over here
    is it gonna effect me now
    :mad::confused:

    Probably not right away; unlikely they will cancel existing visas.

    But over time those working for consulting companies could face hurdles at every step of the way, extensions, visa stampings and even at port of entry.

    Use your time to find a permanent job.





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  • unseenguy
    06-12 01:02 AM
    dilipcr ....... I am perplexed by your responses. To be honest you are flip flopping in your statements. Now if you lose job, please do not come to India seeking a job as PIO. or dual citizen. Should India be also closing doors on her children who showed her backside?



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  • smuggymba
    07-26 02:52 PM
    This is a funny thread. My first exp with an Amway stalker was bad but after that I learned to say NO and it's funny when I ask ppl - Why do you need my fone number? Are u from Amway.........just look at their faces then..it's sooo funny.





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  • smisachu
    06-16 02:55 PM
    You cannot compare a recession to retrogression. A recession is a shrinking economy which is a natural correction of supply and demand. Retrogression is an artificial rationing which has no bearing on demand. It is almost un democratic and prejudiced. What they are doing here by imposing caps by country is they are rationing brilliance. Is it our fault that India and China produces more number of PhD�s and engineers than say Kenya or Denmark?
    If you are looking for diversity look for it under family immigration and not under employment based immigration.

    Your analogy of recession works for the H1. As you see in a falling demand environment the demand for H1 visas this year is tepid compared to previous years. There is no excess supply in employment based immigration as all EB immigrants are gainfully employed and hence �Employment Based� immigrants. There certainly are some who have purchased substitute labor certifications and finding loop holes in the law through consulting firms. I doubt that they are a significant part of the population waiting for visa numbers.

    Your attaining green card is luck more than Pluck. Due to random visa allotment last year many people with dates in 2006 were given green cards ignoring people with prior dates. Now do you intend to say that they were more qualified than those with older priority dates? The whole intention of retrogression is not even to weed out the bum applicants, it is just a result of apathy towards a small immigrant population which is politically insignificant. You can argue all you want of the survival of fittest, but the basic fact is if some one has a PhD in physics and has multiple companies offering jobs, he is not going to stand in line meekly to collect his green card after 10 years. He is going to leg it and go to some other country who will welcome him and his intellect with open arms. So the fittest will be gone and only the mediocre will be left.

    The current retrogression is not a way to filter the fittest out; it is just dumb political red tape.


    Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.



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  • stemcell
    01-14 09:24 AM
    Plainspeak.

    You have the right to an opinion, after all this is a free country. You have expressed it and some people may not like it. Just care less for them.
    But most importantly you need to understand that IV has the immigrant community best interests in mind. After all these are regular folks just like you and me who are doing this voluntarily....and we are reaping the benefits of it.

    But again you may have a different idea or opinion which is always welcome for debate. For example i do not support piecemeal legislation(DREAM act) but after hearing IV point of view thats the best shot we have right now. So it made sense to me.

    Long story short....IV has our best interests in mind.





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  • gc_chahiye
    06-27 10:42 PM
    Are you sure about 80000 PERM?

    I recall seeing somewhere that for the entire 2006, there were about 6000 PERMs.

    nope, that might have been the number for 2005. For the bulk of 2005 (Perm started from April) there were very few approvals, then a big bunch in the last 2 months. 2006 had a 'healthy' rate of approvals...



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  • chanduv23
    09-04 10:35 PM
    This MF doesn't even have minimum decency to just leave alone a Dead Man.

    Want to see his saint deeds on IV.....Look for handle "CHANDUV23" handle history.

    1..) This MF has been preaching about faking Resumes in his old posts
    2.) He suggested faking Exp letter to someone in trouble...
    3.) He openly has shown someones full name using his Admin previledges


    Look for all of "CHANDUV23" posts

    Want to see him...search for him in UTUBE. Search for "CHANDUV23"
    God knows what kind of idiots are given this kind of responsibility as Admin....

    U r insane. U r assuming stuff and spewing venom. U like googling people's ids ehhh and that is ur passtime.

    And for your kind information - I am not an admin, nor do I have any previliges. I can always write what I want, if IV thinks that I must not write something, they let me know. I do not have to come on multiple IDs like some of you do.

    For those who are angry with me - send me an email or post me a private message as to why you are all so angry with me.





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  • swo
    07-13 01:28 PM
    And who rates Canada highly? That requires a different forum for debating but I am just giving you the hint that it is international scam to rate it high.. That is the subject of politics and we would not start debating that at least on this forum..

    More empty rebuttal from you. Quite remarkable.

    2007 rankings - http://www.citymayors.com/features/quality_survey.html

    2005 rankings - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4306936.stm

    UN Human Development Index 2006 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

    So. You see. While there are many criteria that would rank the US over Canada (and by the way, the economy of the last 5-6 years would NOT be one of them), there is plenty of food for thought for those that consider Canada as one option of perhaps several.



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  • ardnahc
    07-21 05:56 PM
    I concur with all the folks in this forum here.

    This reminded me of one of my experiences with Amway guys. This dude comes to me in a mall and started off with his usual "Amway - styled" conversation and finally said that he owns a site similar to amazon.com. That is when I realized and stopped him right there and said "We already have amazon.com, why do you want to open a new one?" he was dumb-founded for a sec then he pretended to attend a phone call and stepped away.





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  • tamil12
    05-02 04:12 PM
    SL Aravas over pitched language loudness is the whole problem. Arava people want to devide the country there. Santhan that is why it doesn't make any sense. There are Malayalis also in SL but never created nuisance!
    If you belive what jihadis is doing wrong in Kashmir. What aravas doing in SL is wrong.

    The terrorism either Islamic or Tamil it is terrorism... I can't support a terrorist because he is having roots in India.

    Why are you using the word Arava? Don't use that again in the forum..Behave your self.



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  • tikka
    07-04 09:33 AM
    This is a HUGE issue if it is true. Can we verify it preferably with a URL?

    This is what I meant when I said that we should identify all the issues and worry about english later. BTW, this is what is taught in a writing course: outline first, english later.

    I have scanned most of the letters posted in thread. I will carefully scan them again and add their issues to my skelton.

    Most of the letters are missing or not stressing some HUGE points like above. These HUGE points are bold faced in the articles I post. Editorials have a lot of these so called punch lines.


    i picked this up from one of the threads.. not sure if it was the breaking news or media thread .. we need member info and url if possible...





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  • snathan
    08-16 05:13 PM
    Well, explain to me, if an american celebrity, such as Brad Pitt or George Clooney is detained at IGI for 66 mins, taken aside for secondary in another chamber, made to wait,

    if robert gates (defense secretary), is asked to remove his shirt

    if ex president bush or clinton is frisked for secondary, would that be acceptable to americans?

    NO. We agree on the answer atleast. Do people in India have to KNOW them?

    You are missing the point here. Americans are doing what they are supposed to do. Our babus are not able to do anything to even ward consuler or local MLA. Whoes mistake that is.



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  • ramus
    07-04 09:03 AM
    Thanks..

    Could you look at the following report and try to find email of the reporter and let him/her know what happened with us.

    http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=68312&cat=Today's+Most+Popular+Stories&more=/news/newspopular.asp


    Thanks..

    We need multipal people working on different action items.. Lets spend our holiday doing something for us/IV.




    also sent it to the drudge report...if he picks it up other talk show hots will pick it up too.





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  • iv_only_hope
    07-24 08:55 PM
    vdlrao
    I will post the calcs and see his response. Thanks.





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  • paskal
    12-13 12:02 PM
    as always Mark!


    There may or may not be constitution grounds to challenge the law, I've thought about this too, however from a pragmatic point of view....

    1) The money needed to pay the lawyers would likely be more than for lobbying. Importantly money for legal costs is best to be on hand -- i.e. good cash flow, otherwise you risk missing legal deadlines. It would mean diverting money from lobbying. If we were flush with cash e.g. every member paid just $100 per year this would work.

    2) Even among members of congress that are behind us, several have reservations about removing country cap (although they are willing to raise it).

    3) EB3 ROW is retrogressed anyway. India EB3 is about May 2001, and ROW EB3 Oct 2002. The effect of only removing country quota would be put EB3 generally at about Oct 2001.

    The way to move forward for all is to increase total through put, e.g. raise caps, remove dependents from caps, recapture unused quota, tie caps to multiple of H1B quota. For ROW it would move steadily forward, and India move and then would jump forward every 4th quarter with massive spill over from ROW.

    As I said I'm not against the idea in principle, just being pragmatic.





    vdlrao
    07-24 09:40 PM
    I really doubt whether any attorney knows how many total VISAS are there for EB1 + EB2 for the fiscal year 2008. On this total EB1 + EB2 we got an estimation based on our calculations in our privious posts.





    Legal
    07-24 07:33 PM
    http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456&page=8


    #78 07-07 12:43 PM
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    Re: Visa Bulletin answers and other isssues

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    Hi Ron.

    Any predictions for Aug-08 visa bulletine.

    Thanks.

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    #79 07-07 01:30 PM


    Re: Visa Bulletin answers and other isssues

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    I suspect there won't be much change from the July bulletin.
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